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Old 03-14-2018, 09:19 PM   #1
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Hello from Florida

Hello,

I wanted to make my intro post here on Skoolie.net as I have been a lurker for some time and finally took the plunge on a govdeals 1999 International 3800 14 Passenger Bluebird DT466E which I hope to pickup in Texas next week and drive back to Florida. I am super excited to be apart of this community and hopefully meet some of you all along the way. Thank you to those that have paved the path before me.

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Old 03-14-2018, 10:42 PM   #2
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Congrats on your purchase - and good luck on the pick up. Post pictures!!
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Old 03-15-2018, 04:39 AM   #3
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Pictures from GovDeals. The school board is on Spring Break this week, else I'd go pick the bus up sooner!
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Old 03-15-2018, 05:41 AM   #4
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Nice bus, good luck on your journey....
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:23 AM   #5
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A shorty with that engine is a good setup.
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:41 AM   #6
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Thanks guys! I just got the line setting report on this bus.

International : DT466E HEUI INT DSL
190HP-2300RPM 49ST 49 State 190 HP
@ 2300 RPM, 485 lb-ft Torque @ 1500
RPM, 2600 RPM Governed Speed, 195
Peak HP (Max)
( 0012NKB )

ALLISON AT5454-SPD AUTO
TRANS 4-Speed; Includes TC-290
Torque Converter and Transmission
Oil Filter; and Less Retarder & PTO
Gear

Original Gear Ratio : 3.91

15X1.435 FRT DISC HYD BRK
"DIAMONDLIFE" "DiamondLife"
15.00" x 1.44" Rotors; Dual
2.60" (66mm) Diam. Pistons


So it appears it is going to be governed for my trip home? Any way to overcome it? What is a good cruising RPM for this setup on the highway? Will I likely be stuck at 55MPH? I'll be heading up and around the gulf coast of Texas back to Florida. Appears it also has hydraulic brakes.
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Old 03-15-2018, 11:05 AM   #7
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Thanks guys! I just got the line setting report on this bus.

International : DT466E HEUI INT DSL
190HP-2300RPM 49ST 49 State 190 HP
@ 2300 RPM, 485 lb-ft Torque @ 1500
RPM, 2600 RPM Governed Speed, 195
Peak HP (Max)
( 0012NKB )

ALLISON AT5454-SPD AUTO
TRANS 4-Speed; Includes TC-290
Torque Converter and Transmission
Oil Filter; and Less Retarder & PTO
Gear

Original Gear Ratio : 3.91

15X1.435 FRT DISC HYD BRK
"DIAMONDLIFE" "DiamondLife"
15.00" x 1.44" Rotors; Dual
2.60" (66mm) Diam. Pistons


So it appears it is going to be governed for my trip home? Any way to overcome it? What is a good cruising RPM for this setup on the highway? Will I likely be stuck at 55MPH? I'll be heading up and around the gulf coast of Texas back to Florida. Appears it also has hydraulic brakes.
The governed speed you are seeing there is the engine RPM, something you do not want to mess around with until you know what you are doing.

There is no indication of the Final Drive Ratio. That 3.91 is not it ... If it were 3.91 you would be going much faster and have poor acceleration.

You need to look into the numbers more, or get under the bus and find the metal tag on the rear axle housing that will have the ratio stamped on it.
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Old 03-15-2018, 01:12 PM   #8
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The governed speed you are seeing there is the engine RPM, something you do not want to mess around with until you know what you are doing.

There is no indication of the Final Drive Ratio. That 3.91 is not it ... If it were 3.91 you would be going much faster and have poor acceleration.

You need to look into the numbers more, or get under the bus and find the metal tag on the rear axle housing that will have the ratio stamped on it.

I am also showing an option for a speed governer that says 55 MPH by default. So I am assuming there is two, one for speed and one for RPM?

Also as far as the rear end I can't find anything else on the Line sheet other then 391. I go to pickup the bus next week was hoping to try and figure out what speed I might be able to cruise home at.

Thanks!
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I am also showing an option for a speed governer that says 55 MPH by default. So I am assuming there is two, one for speed and one for RPM?

Also as far as the rear end I can't find anything else on the Line sheet other then 391. I go to pickup the bus next week was hoping to try and figure out what speed I might be able to cruise home at.

Thanks!
If it is the case that 3.91 is the FD Ratio, then your cruising speed will be pretty much anything you want it to be once the engine speed limit is disabled.

Anyone with the correct equipment can do that for you, even the mechanics at the bus depot if that is where you are picking it up from. They may not be willing

AT 2600 RPM with 22.5 tires your theoretical top speed is 81 mph
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Old 03-15-2018, 04:41 PM   #10
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YES! awesome..
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