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Old 11-03-2016, 05:37 PM   #21
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be sure your VIN is correct... somertimes sellers / auctioneers typo the VIN on a title and it makes for a mess when trying to get it titled / registered in your home state... so definitely verify the 2 before you leave with your new bus..
-Christopher
Yeah, no kidding. Try to register a vehicle that was made before vin numbers, that will stump almost any dmv employee or vehicle inspector... They just look at the 6 digit frame number and blink...
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:41 PM   #22
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I got it home, a nice little adventure. Pop off valve was stuck open 5 mins after leaving so I pulled over cause of the low air warning. Glad it happened when it did. Nice guys (who all looked like ex wrestlers for some odd reason...I mean that in a good way) at the shop came and got me going again despite it technically not being their responsibility. I was very appreciative. Then the dash kept falling off and shutting it down. I had some clamps and was able to Mc Guyver it. Six hours later she's in the driveway with 1.5 ft to spare in front and back.

Weather is not the best so not sure when I'll start converting. I'm ahead of schedule anyway. Put tags on it yesterday. Inspection is next so I can drive worry free so to speak.

Wanted to play with the wheelchair lift, turned it on up front then my friend pressed the fold down button. It started moving but stopped. An orange light on the panel lit up when this happened so I'm not sure what we did wrong there. I'm trying to find an answer to that currently. It still works manually though but where's the fun in that?

I am happy with whatever top speed it was hitting, maybe sixties on the flat? Big hills slowed me way down (40) but some of that is driving style. Watched the gauges and nothing moved after that air leak was fixed. I wont be messing with the rear end. MPGs were great; 6hrs (some idling), 250miles, 5/8 of a tank. I could be off with some of those figures. I put about half a tank before pulling off and it took 11gallons. I'm guessing this is a 20 gallon tank.

Lots of things left to research specific to the my bus I suppose. I have manuals to read!
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:15 PM   #23
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Why? Where are the threads that compare one to the other and explain why A is better than B? Do those thread also include the (what's the proper term) commercial tour buses?
I just spent a little time on the internets, looking at what others were running and what folks were saying about bus mechanical stuff.
School bus fleet forum - School Bus Fleet Magazine Forums this was a very valuable resource for finding out what real world bus operators had to say. Not a very active forum, but PLENTY of info there that's easily found via google.
Theres not gonna be one do-all thread of what bus YOU should get. There are folks that like Cummins, some who will buy Cats, I am a pretty big fan of Internationals. At least the ones before mega-emissions-standards. That's why a mechanical DT is so awesome to someone like me. Its a GREAT engine and as simple as it gets.
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:35 PM   #24
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then theres those like me that do love the emchanical DT I have... but also like playing computers... so that T-444E is intruiging... esp knowing that all I have to do is load the right software code into it and Bam 25 more horespower....

210 HP in a little 6 window bus ought to make a nice ride..

-Christopher
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Old 11-19-2016, 03:02 PM   #25
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I'm down in Leesburg Virginia which is a short hop from Point of Rocks and Frederick. I'm glad to see so many people relatively local. My biggest dilemma right now is where to park a bus so I can work on it. I see you solved that by having a driveway to put it in. Unfortunately I live in an HOA neighborhood - but I'm hoping that weekend-warrioring it and putting it in storage during the week won't ruffle too many feathers.

I'm looking forward to following your conversion as this is the size bus I'm looking at getting into - I'm eager to see what you're going to do with it.
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Old 12-03-2016, 04:36 PM   #26
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The Action Bus

Not so fast says the zoning department 3 weeks later. landlord forwarded me a letter they received. Said I have 30 days to move it (11/26 to 12/6 is 30 days were they're from). I asked my relator about it prior to purchasing and he said he didn't see anything but we obviously overlooked something. Apparently my recreational vehicle can't be visible from the street. So I'll have to play the moving game next week when they come to inspect, then follow up with zoning office later for clarification. The letter stated I could park behind a building not visible from the street or in an enclosure and not visible from the street. The back yard has room but it wouldn't be completely hidden from the street. Maybe a tarp would be ok. I wouldn't mind building a deck like structure open on the sides and top for access and a couple 20x40 tarp to enclose when I'm not working on it. In my world there are no problems just solutions. Neighbors haven't complained, and random people riding by wave, blow the horn and spool salutations.

I'm going with "The Action Bus". I have been and am still gathering materials and tools for spring or an unseasonably warm day or seven. Wasted 30mins at Home Depot waiting for someone to cut two lengths of pipe. Ended up hacking it myself. This is my attempt at a telescoping extension for the bike to fit on the lift. Its definitely going to add some weight, maybe 50lbs but I'm not too concerned as the bike weighs under 400lbs. I got two 3' lengths of 1 1/4" steel pipe to bolt to the ramp. 2 1x36 steel pipe threaded into 2 tees threaded into 2 1x12 threaded to 2 90* elbows with 1x12 connecting the elbows and tees. I'll find out tomorrow if it will work I might even get away with not having to remove the folding lip on the end of the ramp. Someone Let me know if I took the long way on this one so I can return that stuff or reuse. Other telescoping ramps were like $$$ and I can't weld so...I'm too lazy to bolt and unbolt a board every time.

Last post the lift wasn't working. I disconnected and reconnected some electrical connections and now it works. Weird but I'll take it. Some punk stole the SD card out of my phone (who does that?) so I will have to take some new pics.
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Old 12-08-2016, 09:53 AM   #27
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Apparently my recreational vehicle can't be visible from the street. So I'll have to play the moving game next week when they come to inspect, then follow up with zoning office later for clarification. The letter stated I could park behind a building not visible from the street or in an enclosure and not visible from the street. The back yard has room but it wouldn't be completely hidden from the street. Maybe a tarp would be ok. I wouldn't mind building a deck like structure open on the sides and top for access and a couple 20x40 tarp to enclose when I'm not working on it. In my world there are no problems just solutions. Neighbors haven't complained, and random people riding by wave, blow the horn and spool salutations.
My brother did the same thing with a junker car. Bought a cheapy steel pipe "carport" (more of a rigid square tent) over the car. The neighbors that called zoning hated it more than the sight of the car. That'll learn them!!!
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Old 12-20-2016, 06:10 PM   #28
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Is this how you add a picture...I'm such a square sometimes...
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:58 PM   #29
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I waited for the novelty of this project to wear off and I'm still in. Just came up with more reasons to do it.

What I want; A TC2000 (or similar) shorter (42+3) front engine, rear wheelchair lift with DT466 and mt643 or 3060. Does this exist? Wikipedia says yes. Is it super rare or something?

I want it to eventually pull a car or mid sized SUV on a trailer. The lift only has to lift a bike w no rider which is <500lbs wet, I read most are rated for 600lbs max. I don't plan on living in it full time but hoping to squeeze as many amenities as I can afford/have space for.

What I'd settle for; The TC2000 with a 5.9 Cummings and mt643 or 3060.

Closest I've seen; 97? International 3800 DT 466, mt643, rear lift, 20 pass for 3000$ in the classifieds on here. If I was ready to purchase I probably would have pursued. I still have to find a place to park/store/convert. Oh yeah I also need more money.

Most often seeing and don't think I want; Cat3126 with Allison 2000? although Public surplus bid on one is at 500$....in Arizona and it needs tlc already. One on craigslist in VA for 6500?!?! One at National Bus sales claims to have DT466 but trans is just Allison auto. I'm ok with paying more for something running, I haven't been to the garage in Rockville/Bethesda MD yet either.

I guess what I'm looking for is the availability of the powertrain combos mentioned on these handy busses.
My wheel chair lift was rated at 800 lbs
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Old 12-22-2016, 04:50 PM   #30
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Finally figured out the pictures...Pisture#2; where will the bare metal floor be? on top of the "watch your step" step or just below. Haven't been doing anything demo wise yet but the anticipation is killing me.
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