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Old 12-29-2016, 06:48 AM   #11
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wow, great looking rig. those windows are awesome. i hope you keep them all in. if there is any other style of vehicle i want other than my own bus it is this, so i cant wait to see what you do.
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Old 12-29-2016, 05:09 PM   #12
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"The tag axle headaches I'm aware of. Talking to the owner who used this bus in his coach business - he said they're aligned and don't tear up the tires. When the breaks become an issue, they'll be removed and the lines snipped. I'm not carrying 30 people so I don't think I'll need the extra stopping power. When I asked him why he got rid of it - he had a cylinder lose psi. He looked at the rebuild cost and the fact it's an older design. He said that people had trouble looking past it's aged look. He took the money and bought a newer MCI 9."

I would not remove the brakes or snip the lines. The legal jeopardy you will be putting yourself into is so great it would be difficult to quantify. In any sort of accident the opposing counsel is going to ask to see what was changed after the bus left revenue service. Even if the other person was at fault that person's legal team will contend that your modifications were a contributing factor to the accident and will reduce their clients indemnity. At the same time your insurance company will say that they were not informed about such a critical safety modification. If they had known about it they would not have insured that vehicle.

The brakes on an E-350/450 are barely adequate when they are stopping a 24-pax size bus. Add an axle and several more feet in length with only two axles stopping you and you may find yourself taking more feet to stop than there is room to stop.
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Old 12-29-2016, 05:55 PM   #13
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Those seats!!!!! I love those seats!!!!!!!! what you gonna do with them???
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Old 12-30-2016, 10:01 PM   #14
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Those seats!!!!! I love those seats!!!!!!!! what you gonna do with them???
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Probably sell all of them. If you're interested let me know. I see you're in C-Bus, we could meet you 1/2 way or stretch her legs and come to you.

I would say we'll be ready to start pulling them in late March.

BTW we moved here from Delaware. Where in C-Bus are you?
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Old 12-30-2016, 10:03 PM   #15
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The legal jeopardy you will be putting yourself into is so great it would be difficult to quantify.
The brakes on an E-350/450 are barely adequate when they are stopping a 24-pax size bus. Add an axle and several more feet in length with only two axles stopping you and you may find yourself taking more feet to stop than there is room to stop.


That is an excellent thought that I didn't have. Thank you. The brakes will remain and I'll just keep them properly adjusted.
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Old 12-30-2016, 10:06 PM   #16
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Band!! We have a lot in common.. My son is a tuba player for the falls. My wife volunteers to help the band every week..
NICE.

I can't wait to tailgate a couple times with the new bus.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:44 AM   #17
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thats a perfect time-frame for the seats.. im in floirida now and will spend most of my time here till spring when it starts to warm up in ohio..

Grove city is where my house is.. I have one bus in ohio and one in florida.. the Bluebird is what im looking for low-cost seats for..

so did you rebuiold the engine to take care of the dead cylinder? im a bit lost in this conversation or is it cowlitz that had a dead cylinder?

I definitely recommend driving your bus as much as you can .. for one, to get used to it, and for another you also learn of any quirks and mechaniucal issues it mauy have that cant be determined by one trip home and letting it sit.. drive it to dinner, get it on the freeway and in town.. learn its size, and its blind spots, turning radius etc.. as well as anything you may find wrong.. gives you heads up early on of things to fix and watch out for..

drive it in dry weather and in the rain as well to help find leaks that dont show up when just parked...

at some point I want to get measurements on your seats.. and of course how much $$ they will set me back.. lots of pricey-seats out there and i dont want to waste your time or efforts if the $$ is too high like a lot of the ebayers selling..

im looking for them for my little bluebird which I pretty much use as a daily driver... not so much here in florida as I rarely drive down here.. I'm in a walkable city so i dont even touch my car for a week or more at a time...

definitely keep all the braking power you can... we all see how traffic stops instantly on the freeways.. and you can try all you want to leave tons of space in front of you.. but some little car will always slip in front of you and take that extra space you leave.. most people have no regard for busses or trucks on the road, so you may need all the braking power you can get at some point.. Brake fade is real, and brake fade is scary.. and Yes brake fade happens to Disc brakes..

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