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Old 12-27-2016, 03:15 AM   #1
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Hello from NE Ohio

New member from Northeast Ohio.

Well, I'm here with my 1991 E350 7.3L Metrotrans Shuttle Bus. 30 Passenger and fresh out of charter service.

Heads have just been done and transmission has 20000 miles on it. Body only has 86000 miles.

I'm starting the conversion in the next couple of weeks.

The plan is to see the lower 48, Mexico, and Canada over 14 weeks this summer.
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Old 12-27-2016, 03:38 AM   #2
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looks like a cool body.
dont forget to share more pics as you go alone.
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Old 12-27-2016, 06:41 AM   #3
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Hello dad. Was that bus listed on craigslist akron? Always nice to have another buckeye.
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Old 12-27-2016, 11:44 AM   #4
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That looks as if you have found a pretty nice bus.

You will find two issues with that bus.

First, you have an E4OD transmission. In a bus of that size the transmission is barely up to the task. At 20,000 miles it might still be good for another 20,000 miles or it might be dead in another 100 miles. It seems that behind the 7.3L the transmission has a particular penchant for munching itself. Keep an eye on the color of the transmission fluid. The original design of the transmission does not allow enough fluid to flow through it fast enough to keep the fluid from overheating. It doesn't matter if you had a semi-truck radiator for a transmission cooler--the fluid will still get cooked as it passes through the valve body. If you should munch the transmission find a replacement from one of the builders online that have figured out some work arounds that allow the transmission to live behind diesel engines that have had serious HP increases. It won't be cheap but it just might be the last transmission you will have to purchase.

Second, the tax axle is a maintenance headache. The tag was not installed by Ford and many times not by the body builder but by an third party upfitter. Many of the parts used to upfit the tag axle are no longer available. Of particular problem is the braking system used by the tag axle. Various systems were used. Because it is no longer a bus that is being used to transport passengers it might be easier to find someone who can retrofit a system that will work. Most shops are not willing to take on the product liability issues that go along with changing a major safety system from what the OEM put on the bus.

Good luck and happy trails to you!
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Old 12-27-2016, 05:59 PM   #5
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Hello dad. Was that bus listed on craigslist Akron? Always nice to have another buckeye.
Yes, it was! I spoke with the mechanic that did the current work and the operator that had it before.

I think I found a decent bus.

Do you currently have a bus in Cuyahoga Falls? Would love to see it and get some ideas.
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Old 12-27-2016, 06:08 PM   #6
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First, you have an E4OD transmission. In a bus of that size the transmission is barely up to the task.

Tough to hear about the E4OD. I had one in my 92 E350 with the 7.5 and it pulled 7500lbs plus 7 people and gear all the time. The GVWR on this thing is 11000, so hopefully it last. Fingers Crossed.


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Second, the tax axle is a maintenance headache.
The tag axle headaches I'm aware of. Talking to the owner who used this bus in his coach business - he said they're aligned and don't tear up the tires. When the breaks become an issue, they'll be removed and the lines snipped. I'm not carrying 30 people so I don't think I'll need the extra stopping power. When I asked him why he got rid of it - he had a cylinder lose psi. He looked at the rebuild cost and the fact it's an older design. He said that people had trouble looking past it's aged look. He took the money and bought a newer MCI 9.

Thanks for your advice, keep it coming.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:30 AM   #7
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Yes, it was! I spoke with the mechanic that did the current work and the operator that had it before.

I think I found a decent bus.

Do you currently have a bus in Cuyahoga Falls? Would love to see it and get some ideas.
I see you are in Ravenna. (grew up in Rootstown). Now I live and work in Cuyahoga Falls. My bus and atv's and tools are in Akron. I have a 1997 shuttle bus that I use as a camper/tow vehicle. Just some futon bunk beds but its great for what I do. Jerry
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:32 PM   #8
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I see you are in Ravenna. (grew up in Rootstown).

My kids go to Rootstown. We moved there 2.5 years ago and into Ravenna because of cheaper housing. Love Rootstown, great people. Come on out for a football game and say hi, I'll be announcing the band at halftime.
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Welcome! Great Walls of Windows! That'll be a fun adventure

Good luck!
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Old 12-29-2016, 06:40 AM   #10
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Band!! We have a lot in common.. My son is a tuba player for the falls. My wife volunteers to help the band every week..
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