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Old 08-19-2017, 04:59 PM   #1
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Smile Hello from Route 66

Hello all, as the title say, we live (in a house) right off Route 66, in Bethany Ok! The wife and I have looked at buying a RV for some time, then saw the prices and lack of quality construction, at least in what we can afford, and have decided a Skooly is in our future.
We are going to be looking at a long one, say in the 60 to70 passenger size, we think.
I have SOME ideas/plans for it, but am going to lurk around here and steal some of your plans too . . . . but don't tell anyone that, ok ? Oh, shoot, I just told on my self huh? Oh well. . . too late now ! LOL
Some of the plans include:
1. Raising the roof about 12" front to rear
2. roof top deck
3. solar power, in the 500 plus watt range
4. POSSABLE 4wheel drive conversion (way down on the list)
5. strong boon docking/off grid design
6. room for up to 2 Adults and 2 kids to sleep (bunks for kids)
7. toilet and shower facilities on board
8. propane cooking
9. enough fresh water capacity for 5 people for a week at a time (150 gal)
10. solar shower outside for body rinse off or washing

Anyway, those are my current THOUGHTS on the build up, some may not work, some may work better than planned, we shall see.

The primary use will be for vacations (four people), and some day living in (2 people).
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:07 PM   #2
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7 gal of freshwater for one person can last a month. 150 gallons? That's a bit much and, considering that water weighs in at about 8 lbs, you're looking at 1200 lbs!

4WD conversion? $$$$$$$$$$
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7 gallons a MONTH??? I drink a gallon a day!! let alomne showers and flush
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7 gal of freshwater for one person can last a month. 150 gallons? That's a bit much and, considering that water weighs in at about 8 lbs, you're looking at 1200 lbs!

4WD conversion? $$$$$$$$$$

I can get front AND rear 5 ton rockwell axles (rebuilt at that) for about $5000, a Atlas T-Case is about $1000, drive shaft is $100, misc parts $1000 so about $6500 I have all the parts, and might be looking at $1000 labor, so for $7000-$7500 I have MONSTER BUS !

As for water, even FEMA says 7 gallons per person per day to cover drinking, cooking and hygiene. My family has it down to about 5 gallons with some careful planning. So yeah, heavy but needed if we are going to boon-dock. . . .
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I can get front AND rear 5 ton rockwell axles (rebuilt at that) for about $5000, a Atlas T-Case is about $1000, drive shaft is $100, misc parts $1000 so about $6500 I have all the parts, and might be looking at $1000 labor, so for $7000-$7500 I have MONSTER BUS !

As for water, even FEMA says 7 gallons per person per day to cover drinking, cooking and hygiene. My family has it down to about 5 gallons with some careful planning. So yeah, heavy but needed if we are going to boon-dock. . . .
Capacity: 150 Gallons
Dimensions: 40 1/4"L x 32 1/2"W x 28 1/2"H

4x4: You'd be best-off getting an entire 5 ton M923a2 for the conversion. You will need custom leaf springs. Custom steering. The 2-speed divorced cast the 5 tons use is stout. And you get the 8.3L Cummins.

Just put a shorty body on the cargo frame. Like this:

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Old 08-20-2017, 12:43 PM   #6
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Thats cool looking. . . .But the 4x4 conversion is WAY down theist, IF it even happens.

Now the 150 gallons, THAT is high up the list. plus ill need a matching sized grey tank. Would there be room UNDER the school to fit two tanks that size ? Well more like a 150 fresh and a 100/125 grey.
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Thats cool looking. . . .But the 4x4 conversion is WAY down theist, IF it even happens.

Now the 150 gallons, THAT is high up the list. plus ill need a matching sized grey tank. Would there be room UNDER the school to fit two tanks that size ? Well more like a 150 fresh and a 100/125 grey.
I'm putting my fresh water tank inside the bus, under the master bed. Hopefully it will stay warmer and not freeze. You could go 2 tanks and a little pump.

this will fit under bed perfectly.

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A waterbed could work.....hmmmm.
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7 gallons a MONTH??? I drink a gallon a day!! let alomne showers and flush
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Doctors won't let me ingest more than 1800 ml of fluid daily. Flushing? Whazzat? I have a composting commode - no water necessary. And showering? I can shower in a teacup! I'm a NAVY veteran.
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Doctors won't let me ingest more than 1800 ml of fluid daily. Flushing? Whazzat? I have a composting commode - no water necessary. And showering? I can shower in a teacup! I'm a NAVY veteran.
First and foremost, THANK YOU for your time and service Sir !

Now, on to the next part, I am 6'3" and 300# , it would take a HUGE tea cup for me to wash up in ! LOL J/K , I can infect wash and rinse in about 1 gallon full body wash, or 1/2 gallon for a "bird Bath".
Unfortunately my two daughters are high functioning autistic and do not seem to grasp the concept of a "bird Bath', so they tend to need/use about 1-2 gallons to clean up.
Add to that we are all four type two diabetics and we go through A LOT of drinking water ! I drink almost 2 gallons a day personally, the wife and kids, a little less.
Follow that with cooking needs of up to a gallon a meal (high side) and you get a lot of water needed. Basically we are at 14-15 gallons a day MINIMUM, times 7 days of boon docking minimum, and you get 105 gallons, if we go with a composting toilet like you ( I am looking into that ).`

I do want to thank you for your, and everyones, input as this IS HELPING me figure out more on how I want to go.
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UF, I, too, am Diabetic (since 2000), so the doctor's orders are a double whammy. I just can't win.

I decided to go the composting route when I realized that I would have to add a black tank. Realizing from past experience (submarines) just how badly a black tank can smell, I started researching and came up with this: Nature's Head. The cost? About $1k. Plus side: no smell, no black tank. The downside? Emptying the compost, the size of the peat moss bundle. Alternative? Compressed coir (available through Amazon Coir.

The shower? The only thing I can come up with that your family can use would be a shower timer, either a mechanical timer or a minute glass. Shower Timer
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