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Old 01-05-2016, 08:12 PM   #11
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It might be state dependant but in Wyoming the gvwr does NOT dictate the cdl requirement. It's the registered weight. I had a 33k gvwr truck that was registered at 25,999 and a cdl was not required. It only weighed 25,500 and it had truck plates. Once I got more tools on it I had to up the weight and go to commercial plates, then it became a cdl vehicle
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That's odd, cuz I just looked that up, and they say it's based on the GVWR

http://www.dot.state.wy.us/files/liv...0for%20Web.pdf
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Does it have air brakes, is titled as a bus? If the answer to either of those is 'yes' you will need a CDL or at least supplementary endorsements to drive it. Even if under 26,000lbs since it has a higher passenger capacity, you'll need a CDL.

Id bet my nose its over 26000gvwr
Check with YOUR state's DMV/MVD before believing this bit of tripe. You do NOT necessarily need a CDL to drive a skoolie. I need NO CDL or supplementary endorsements to operate my Thomas. I also do NOT need a USDOT number emblazoned on the side.
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Looks like my posts are now cuts of beef. We are rivals now, CaptSquid.

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I've over 500K miles as a Class VIII driver. Do you? Did you have to sign a document stating that you will no longer possess a CDL when you couldn't pass a DOT physical? My Thomas has a GVWR of 36200 and is titled as a bus, but I STILL don't need a CDL or endorsement to operate it, nor was I asked to produce these documents when I purchased it and registered it.
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I wonder if I drove to california in my bus with CO plates and a CO driver's license, which law takes precedent. California ruins all the fun. Assholes
The regs for your state of registration should apply.
My gross weight was changed when I got my bus titled in FL. I don't mind if you swear to any man upstairs. FL issued me a new FL title as it was previously titled by the Kentucky school board.
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From the Wyoming DOT:

Class “C” Vehicle: with “Z” Endorsement: authorizes the holder of a class C license to operate a vehicle or combination of vehicles which have a gross vehicle weight rating of thirty-nine thousand one (39,001) pounds or more.
Who can apply for the “Z” endorsement? If you are a farmers/ranchers, firefighters or a driver that wish to operate recreational vehicle or combination vehicles and are exempt for the CDL requirements. You must be at least 18 years of age.
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Not looking to start a pissing match about who has more experience. I had a CDL for 10 years and ran a bus company for that long as well. We are both qualified to answer, unfortunately there are many different answers.

The weight listed on my title isnt the gvwr. It is the weight of my bus from when I had it retitled to motorhome and it is not labeled GVWR. It is labeled CWT i think. Ill look it up at home.

AFAIK, the GVWR is a rating from the mfgr based on the vehicles specs and equipment and is unchangeable by definition.

I apologize for bad info. Though everything I said is true in CO. Next time, lll stay out of it unless they're in my state
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Charles, you should go back and re-read Wyoming's requirements. The VERY FIRST WORD is GENERALLY. There ARE exceptions, and an RV conversion counts as an exception.

THE final authority as to who is required to have a CDL rests with the state in which the driver is registered, NOT by another state. If Colorado requires you to wear purple parachute pants while driving, then that rule applies ONLY to Colorado registered drivers, not anyone else.
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You bring up a great point Charles. I've heard that some people register their RV's in the cheapest state for license plates and no inspections if possible. They just set up a PO box and claim residence in that state. After all, if we're going to be traveling all around the country in our buses what difference does it make what state we register it in?
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