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Old 01-05-2016, 09:01 PM   #21
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Operators of the following types of vehicles are exempt
from CDL requirements, but must have either a Wyoming
heavy vehicle license or an applicable Department
of Defence license:
l Farm and ranch vehicles weighing 26,001 or more
pounds Gross Combination Weight Rating controlled
and operated by a farmer or rancher and used in agricultural
operations within a 150 air-mile radius of
domicile; or
l Fire fighting and related emergency equipment weighing
26,001 or more pounds Gross Combination Weight
Rating ; or
l Military equipment when owned or operated by the
U.S. Department of Defense and operated by noncivilian
personnel (including National Guard personnel
while on active duty); or
l Recreational vehicles weighing 26,001 or more pounds
Gross Combination Weight Rating used solely as a
personal conveyance for recreational and leisure-time
pursuits.
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Old 01-05-2016, 09:29 PM   #22
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If Colorado requires you to wear purple parachute pants while driving
That would be... interesting, lol.
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Old 01-05-2016, 09:32 PM   #23
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Not looking to start a pissing match about who has more experience. I had a CDL for 10 years and ran a bus company for that long as well. We are both qualified to answer, unfortunately there are many different answers.

The weight listed on my title isnt the gvwr. It is the weight of my bus from when I had it retitled to motorhome and it is not labeled GVWR. It is labeled CWT i think. Ill look it up at home.

AFAIK, the GVWR is a rating from the mfgr based on the vehicles specs and equipment and is unchangeable by definition.

I apologize for bad info. Though everything I said is true in CO. Next time, lll stay out of it unless they're in my state
You're a hell of a guy and although I've disagreed with you I've felt to anger or malice and see no vitriol in the discourse here. Carry on, your experience is valuable to lots of folks. If I were in CO trying to do all this bus stuff I'd defer to your knowledge of the regs for sure.
We are in various states with various regs.
Before I was a forum member and before I bought my bus I pored over discussions just like this one and found them to be extremely informative and helpful.
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Old 01-05-2016, 09:33 PM   #24
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Operators of the following types of vehicles are exempt
from CDL requirements ... Recreational vehicles weighing 26,001 or more pounds
Gross Combination Weight Rating used solely as a
personal conveyance for recreational and leisure-time
pursuits.
Great, but California law has no such exemption, as far as I know. I posted shots from the applicable California RV handbook.
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Old 01-05-2016, 09:34 PM   #25
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Operators of the following types of vehicles are exempt
from CDL requirements, but must have either a Wyoming
heavy vehicle license or an applicable Department
of Defence license:
l Farm and ranch vehicles weighing 26,001 or more
pounds Gross Combination Weight Rating controlled
and operated by a farmer or rancher and used in agricultural
operations within a 150 air-mile radius of
domicile; or
l Fire fighting and related emergency equipment weighing
26,001 or more pounds Gross Combination Weight
Rating ; or
l Military equipment when owned or operated by the
U.S. Department of Defense and operated by noncivilian
personnel (including National Guard personnel
while on active duty); or
l Recreational vehicles weighing 26,001 or more pounds
Gross Combination Weight Rating used solely as a
personal conveyance for recreational and leisure-time
pursuits.
Ours in FL is similar to this but we don't need any heavy vehicle endorsement. Its "built in" to a regular class E here.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:00 AM   #26
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OH YEAH!
Well, as long as we know what we're doing in our respective states. See what bureaucracy does?!? IT TEARS FAMILIES APART
lol

I still think anyone who owns or drives a skoolie should AT LEAST know the CDL handbook at should probably be able to pass the written and driving tests. It will make you a better, safer driver.

I was maybe getting hangry waiting for dinner in my last posts. I have eaten. All is well now
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:13 AM   #27
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...should have said "no" not "to"... Sounds like you understood me enough though.
Glad you're fed now.
I just polished off an entire bag of caramel corn. Chocolate dipped.
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ill show you chocolate dipped
working on a bag of fruit slices myself!
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:26 AM   #29
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I still think anyone who owns or drives a skoolie should AT LEAST know the CDL handbook at should probably be able to pass the written and driving tests. It will make you a better, safer driver.
You forgot that a Class A license also requires a physical evaluation. I read the federal standards that define that exam, and it specifically screens out drivers with musculoskeletal disabilities like me, with cerebral palsy.

In theory I could bypass that with a practical skills performance assessment, but that takes time and money, and means that I would miss this bus.

It also requires someone with a class A type vehicle that is willing to let me take the DMV road test in it, which is another matter entirely.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:42 AM   #30
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Hey I definitely understand your situation! I've had to take that exam almost a dozen times, but I dont think us skoolies need go that far I'm just saying that there is a book out there that explains the laws and principles of safe bus and heavy truck operation on the road. We should know it!
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