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Old 09-15-2017, 10:07 AM   #1
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I just got a Gillig!

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Hi!

So, enthusiasm has triumphed over my better judgment, and I've bought a transit bus! It's a 2001 35' Gillig Low Floor, with 429,000 miles. It was last used as a hotel shuttle to WDW (I live in Central Florida), so it has had a few modifications from when it was used in transit service.

I'm new to buses, and to diesel/air brakes, but I was able to successfully get it across town and to its current parking spot. It runs on the highway, but it has...issues. That's going to be where a lot of my early questions are coming from. Just so you can see what I'm going to be asking about, here's a few photos;




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Old 09-15-2017, 07:27 PM   #2
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With a bit more research, I've been able to confirm that the bus uses a Cummins ISM CM570 engine, and probably a Voith D864.3E automatic transmission. With that, I can start identifying types and quantities of fluids and filters.
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:40 PM   #3
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Excellent and welcome.
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:28 PM   #4
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Great looking bus and likely lots of life yet in it.
Congrats and welcome, a great canvas to build on.

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Old 09-15-2017, 09:45 PM   #5
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:23 AM   #6
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That looks like a really nice bus. Just be prepared to shell out big $$$ if you ever have transmission issues.

The Voith is a good unit but it is not nearly as common as an Allison and almost no one will offer to work on them. In other words parts and service are basically zero.

The Gillig platform is a very good platform and is nearly indestructible.

Good luck and happy trails to you!
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:57 AM   #7
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Great choose the low floor buses are easy to convert and have nice heigh ceilings.
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Old 09-25-2017, 07:23 AM   #8
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A little progress this week, but no new photos yet. Tags & title are done; although my credit card didn't actually melt, I'll need to treat it gently for a bit. This weekend was fabricating a set of ramps for the back wheels. The air ride is messed up somewhere, lifting normally when the bus is started, then the left side abruptly drops to the stops. I'm hoping it's the linkage for the left leveling valve, but I need to get under there and inspect.
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Old 09-25-2017, 07:54 AM   #9
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Love this bus!! I like seeing different kinds of busses. when you start the conversion, treat the wiring Nicely.. it likely has a multiplexed CAN Bus network to run many of the items like the doors, Air conditioning, etc.. just going in and slicing wires will probably make it so your bus will fail to start, or operate.. so whenever you disconnect ONE ITEM, make sure you can still start and drive the bus!.
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Old 09-25-2017, 08:12 AM   #10
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I was lucky enough to score a set of the as-built schematics, and yes, there is a good deal of multiplexed wiring. Fortunately, the PLC programs are included in the schematics! Unfortunately, most of the accessories that weren't nailed down were salvaged by a previous owner, so there's a good deal of unmarked wiring for radios, GPS trackers and the like to trace and remove/reuse.

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