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Old 01-24-2017, 06:58 PM   #31
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my horrible fright tools just replaced an air compressor and a thermostat and except for using a gear puller and a drill (to install the air dryer) they did it all..

the gear puller couldve been rented.. and an air dryer wouldnbt be installed along side the road..

but even though i was at home with my garage full of tools, it was an exercise to see if my on-board set was enough to make a decent size repair should i need it.. only thing I was short was the gear / pulley puller and deep well sockets wouldve helped in a couple places.. so I added some deep wells in my onboard set and dont worry about the puller.. thats rare to bneed that making a roadside repair..

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Old 01-24-2017, 07:06 PM   #32
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Oh once it's built, it will have dedicated tools. I'll keep the MIG onboard.
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Old 01-24-2017, 07:23 PM   #33
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love h freight tools, still got my 20 dollar grinder I bought 5 years ago. some stuff is junk but most of it is a great deal, things you only use a few times a year.
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Old 01-24-2017, 09:26 PM   #34
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Insurance

Got a policy thru Progressive for $210 a year. They cancelled me 1 month later. Said they can't insure it because it's a converted school bus? I thought I made that perfectly clear when I got the policy. Got another policy thru Allstate. $113 per 6 months. My stated millage per year is 1000. ( still more working on it than driving it ) Coverage is 100,000 / 300,000. Once again I hope I made it very clear that this is a school bus conversion. It's been a month now and I haven't cancelled yet.

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Old 01-24-2017, 10:22 PM   #35
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i just bid on a bus this morning as well. auction ends thursday at 8 pm. not from texas thou,,
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:01 AM   #36
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First, I lost the bid on the bus. I bowed out at $2k. I was going to be upset if it sold for $2150 but it ended at $3450 so I don't feel too bad at the moment. That particular auction site doesn't take plastic and I only have $2k in cash at the moment.

So, back to waiting for an 84 or better yet a 90 pax bus to hit the auctions/CL/etc.

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Got a policy thru Progressive for $210 a year. They cancelled me 1 month later. Said they can't insure it because it's a converted school bus? I thought I made that perfectly clear when I got the policy. Got another policy thru Allstate. $113 per 6 months. My stated millage per year is 1000. ( still more working on it than driving it ) Coverage is 100,000 / 300,000. Once again I hope I made it very clear that this is a school bus conversion. It's been a month now and I haven't cancelled yet.

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Damn, how are you getting such low rates? I don't know what Progressive was using for mileage. I forgot to mention and they didn't ask.
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:22 AM   #37
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First, I lost the bid on the bus. I bowed out at $2k. I was going to be upset if it sold for $2150 but it ended at $3450 so I don't feel too bad at the moment. That particular auction site doesn't take plastic and I only have $2k in cash at the moment.

So, back to waiting for an 84 or better yet a 90 pax bus to hit the auctions/CL/etc.

Damn, how are you getting such low rates? I don't know what Progressive was using for mileage. I forgot to mention and they didn't ask.
Its not really the passenger count that dictates how long a bus is. An "84" and "90" are almost certainly the same bus with slightly different seating configurations. My bus is 40 feet and is only rated at "78".
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:31 AM   #38
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First, I lost the bid on the bus. I bowed out at $2k. I was going to be upset if it sold for $2150 but it ended at $3450 so I don't feel too bad at the moment. That particular auction site doesn't take plastic and I only have $2k in cash at the moment.

So, back to waiting for an 84 or better yet a 90 pax bus to hit the auctions/CL/etc.

Damn, how are you getting such low rates? I don't know what Progressive was using for mileage. I forgot to mention and they didn't ask.
same thing here. i thought the one i was bidding on would top around 2500.00 but i was wrong!!
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:55 AM   #39
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Its not really the passenger count that dictates how long a bus is. An "84" and "90" are almost certainly the same bus with slightly different seating configurations. My bus is 40 feet and is only rated at "78".
FYI... certainly not saying you're wrong. I just don't know.


I saw on another forum of actual bus drivers that the max 40 foot length law is NOT a law bus was merely a standard. Some states had laws that were being revised to allow the Thomas and Blue Bird 90 pax buses. Those posts were from around 2005ish so those then new buses are now getting to our auctions and price points.

I have no idea what the laws nor the standards are for distance between seats. I do know there are certain requirements on window size so even if you cram them in there like sardines, you still have to have the chassis length for the windows. That said, I could see a 72 and a 78 being the same. But a 90 the same as a 72??? I just don't see that happening.

The VA bus I went and looked at is a 78 pax (I think) and it measured roughly 32 ft from driver to rear. It was an International FE. I just don't remember if it was 72 or 78 but pretty sure it was 78.
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FYI... certainly not saying you're wrong. I just don't know.


I saw on another forum of actual bus drivers that the max 40 foot length law is NOT a law bus was merely a standard. Some states had laws that were being revised to allow the Thomas and Blue Bird 90 pax buses. Those posts were from around 2005ish so those then new buses are now getting to our auctions and price points.

I have no idea what the laws nor the standards are for distance between seats. I do know there are certain requirements on window size so even if you cram them in there like sardines, you still have to have the chassis length for the windows. That said, I could see a 72 and a 78 being the same. But a 90 the same as a 72??? I just don't see that happening.

The VA bus I went and looked at is a 78 pax (I think) and it measured roughly 32 ft from driver to rear. It was an International FE. I just don't remember if it was 72 or 78 but pretty sure it was 78.
Just look at how many rows of windows the bus has, forget the passenger count man.
The longest school bus you're gona find is a 40 footer. Sure- some schools own and operate tour buses, but we're talking north american, nat'l chrome yellow school buses here.
My bus had several smaller seats that could have been ordered as full size seats to expand the capacity to 80-something. The school district ordered the small seats near all the exits to make it easier to evacuate. Not every bus comes like this. My bus has a side exit that not every bus has, as well.
It all depends on the district that ordered the bus. The amount of rows of windows will be the quickest way to tell how long a bus is, at least roughly.
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