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Old 02-08-2019, 11:40 AM   #1
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NEW and Need advice please!

Hello!
I am looking to buy my first bus and was hoping some more expereinced folks could give me some feedback on this 2002 Thomas Freightliner with a 5.9 diesel cummins engine. Only 60,000 miles. Would really appreciate anyones opinion or experience.

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Old 02-08-2019, 12:05 PM   #2
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Bus speedometers often fail in the first 20k miles and they are replaced more often than not. I would suspect your 17 yo bus has more than the stated miles. Buses normally average 10k miles a year, your bus should have nearer to 170K. 1/3 of the normal mileage is not reliable. The 5.9, while not a bad motor, is the least desirable, most often because it is backed by an Allison 545, which is not desirable.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:08 PM   #3
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Thanks for your input. Do you think this would be a good buy, overall? Or do you think the engine or trans will give out on me? It only has 60,000 miles on it.
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Bus speedometers often fail in the first 20k miles and they are replaced more often than not. I would suspect your 17 yo bus has more than the stated miles. Buses normally average 10k miles a year, your bus should have nearer to 170K. 1/3 of the normal mileage is not reliable. The 5.9, while not a bad motor, is the least desirable, most often because it is backed by an Allison 545, which is not desirable. Would value that bus at no more than $3k.
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Thanks for your input. Do you think this would be a good buy, overall? Or do you think the engine or trans will give out on me? It only has 60,000 miles on it.
Did you read my reply? I doubt very seriously if the mileage stated is correct. When the seller bought the bus they believed what they were told and reflected by the speedo. Fact is I bet 75% of every bus out there has had the speedo replace sometime during their life. Will the engine and trans give out on you? Well that depends on your intended use. If you plan on cross country trips via mountain ranges, you will find the trans lacking in performance.
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Yes, definitely planning on cross country, Colorado trips. Im bummed because i thought i found a good bus! Oh well.
Thanks for the response
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Have patience, the right bus for you will come along. Take the time to find the right setup, then you don't have to worry about changing/upgrading things later...

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Tell us more about your plans and we will help you find a decent bus.
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Well i live in Michigan and would like the bus to convert to a camper/RV for long distance travel in the U.S. and Canada. I would possibly like to live in it full time in the future as well.
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To clarify what marc said, the speedometer goes out but this does not show your total miles traveled. Instead of replacing just the speedometer, often the entire panel is replaced - along with the odometer.

For instance, I purchased my bus with an odometer reading of 108,000. I got a new dash with extra gauges instead of installing the individual gauges. The new dash I installed had 119,000 miles on its odometer.


That's just a minor example of variation, but you may find 500,000 mile buses with a replaced panel reading less than 100,000 on the odometer. Likewise, you may have a bus with verified 50,000 miles on it, but the panel was replaced with one where the odometer read 350,000.

You should also consider the maximum range of the vehicles odometer - it can and will "roll around: back to zero after it reaches it max miles the odometer can display. Again, reasons you'll find oddities like classic cars from the 60's and 70's with super low milage - the odometer rolled over and essentially "reset".
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