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Old 02-11-2017, 01:25 PM   #11
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To drive a “Private” Bus legally across state lines here is what I did.


Commercial Drivers license (CDL) Class B minimum with Passenger Endorsement

Any vehicle that can carry 16+ according to the title and Vehicle ID must be operated by a CDL holder even if the seats our ripped out.

I have heard of someone ripping the seats out and having the DMV re-register the bus as a truck. *


DOT number -BIG GREY AREA!

Without a DOT # you will have to convince an inspector that you are not involved in commerce (property or passenger) of any kind.

Driving an empty bus would be for Transporting it elsewhere.

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registrati...usdot-number-1

Why -It’s required due to vehicle type (bus), seat capacity (more than 15) and size (26K+lbs GVWR) even if you not doing commercial work. *The only people exempt is Governement. *

The only time it's not required in a large vehicle is a Motorhome.

If you have a private truck and only hauling your own product there are exceptions however bus never meet that if you cross a state line.

-Posted on both sides legible at 50’



Hours of Service -Even when Private (Vehicle 10,001lbs or above and Designed to carry 16+ occupants)

You do not have to keep a Log Book §395.8(a) (Page 9 on link below)

You don’t have to keep a log book but if you in an accident they can look at any documentation (receipts) to determine if you are following Hours of Service or driving illegal.

You do have to follow them.

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmcs...ide-To-HOS.pdf

10hrs driving in a 15hr period then 8hr off duty before another 10hr drive period.

Passenger HOS not Property



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Old 02-11-2017, 01:39 PM   #12
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great idea! I e-mailed the contact to ask him to send the title or a bill of sale so that i can get it registered. if i can do that the DMV here is pretty chill and can switch its classification to an rv which would void the CDL requirement from what i was reading.
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Old 02-11-2017, 02:09 PM   #13
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That would be the best! Show up with RV on the title and have a great road trip back!

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thank you for all the advice i feel a lot better about the legalities and technicalities and possible loop holes, i guess if they do give me a hard time after doing all that then i will fly my uncle or one of my friends out to drive it home for me. but hopefully i can skirt around all that. the DOT is about as yellow taped as the FAA. they should really try to hammer something out with all the states regarding new purchased vehicles and transportation to the new point of origin.
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Old 02-11-2017, 02:47 PM   #15
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Some of the DOT Inspectors are very nice. Some, just are not nice at all. In the end if they don't enforce something and it is later proven his/her lack of enforcement contributed to an accident.... You see where I'm going. It's unfortunate but one DOT officer explained it to me that way it changed my perspective.

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thank you for all the advice i feel a lot better about the legalities and technicalities and possible loop holes, i guess if they do give me a hard time after doing all that then i will fly my uncle or one of my friends out to drive it home for me. but hopefully i can skirt around all that. the DOT is about as yellow taped as the FAA. they should really try to hammer something out with all the states regarding new purchased vehicles and transportation to the new point of origin.
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Old 02-11-2017, 02:56 PM   #17
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The rules are tough because of folks trying to go around them. Even today there are "illegal" freight hauler's. Some just transporting a vehicle from point A to point B others freight and so on. I have heard folks brag about what they can get away with yet the life they normally live. No thanks. CDL wise, it can be tough to get one, the training, drug screening, physicals required anywhere from monthly to every two years. Yet the training and hours of service are there to protect people. Some from themselves, some from companies. I don't always like them, but it is nice not to be forced to drive 16- 20 hrs a day as some companies used to do.

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