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Old 05-08-2017, 09:07 AM   #11
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Cheapest undercoating is used motor oil.
It is really "old school".
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Old 05-08-2017, 09:16 AM   #12
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Cheapest undercoating is used motor oil.
It is really "old school".
I have a few gallons I have been saving up. I am trying to figure out how to apply it best. I tried a bit in a pump sprayer, but it just made a mess

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Old 05-08-2017, 12:59 PM   #13
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Okay, on the advice I've received here I think I found something that matches my criteria.
1999 Bluebird All American 75, pusher/rear engine, Cummins 8.3. Around $9k.

Underbody storage, looks absolutely immaculate. No rust anywhere, their body shop goes through it.

Odometer discrepancy? 23000 miles ish, but the timer shows 13000 hours.

Any thoughts?
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Old 05-08-2017, 01:02 PM   #14
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That's a good engine. And a nice bus.


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Old 05-08-2017, 01:15 PM   #15
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With that many hours it seems quite obvious the gage cluster has been replaced, or maybe they forgot and left that bus idling on the weekends to get that many hours.

It's hard to say, the engine could have been replaced. Without records who knows.

If it runs decent now, it will likely last you for as long as you care to drive it.
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:00 PM   #16
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Naw...they only ran it 1.7 miles each hour. Short route.
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:37 PM   #17
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If you want to keep your costs down go for a non-computerized anything International DT 466 or dt360 I took my dt360 with a 78 passenger Thomas body from Minneapolis to San Francisco up every Mountain to and from (we took the northern route through Montana Oregon Washington Utah Idaho) and didn't use a lick of oil we had absolutely problems you have to go to the early nineties to find a non-computerized non censored DT

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Old 05-08-2017, 03:45 PM   #18
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If you want to keep your costs down go for a non-computerized anything International DT 466 or dt360 I took my dt360 with a 78 passenger Thomas body from Minneapolis to San Francisco up every Mountain to and from (we took the northern route through Montana Oregon Washington Utah Idaho) and didn't use a lick of oil we had absolutely problems you have to go to the early nineties to find a non-computerized non censored DT

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I hasve one of each.. a 2000 compurtized T-444E, and a 1991 All mechanical DT-360, while neither are powerhouses.. that DT-360 is solid, sure i slow down in the hills with it but it never runs hot, ive driven that bus like 15k miles in the last year with no issues from the engine..

the T-444E is in a MUCH Lighter bus.. and while its electronics have been flawless in the 5-6K ive driven it, it defimitely is MUCH more complex than the mechanical DT-360 and likes to run warm on the highway..
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