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Old 05-03-2015, 09:54 AM   #1
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Newbie- looking@ ward 47 passenger

Hi everyone, I've been lurking around for awhile and I'd like to get opinions on a possible project. It's a 1990 Ward 47 passenger with a Chevy 366, four speed manual with 2 speed axle. As far as I know it is completely stock. Is this a solid base to start from? Are there any commonly known issues with these? Any input is appreciated.
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Old 05-03-2015, 10:08 AM   #2
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Welcome.

I like the way the wards look, but have never seen one is person. Not common around here.

There are a few members in the build thread section that have wards. I would go read as many build threads as you can. Much valuable info there.

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Old 05-03-2015, 10:51 AM   #3
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I've seen some pretty decent Wards and it is likely a solid platform to build on. My only concern would be the 366. That particular big block was quite a gas hog that only came in trucks & buses. (Note...but it was VERY popular with racers)

Personally, I would avoid any gas engine in a bus of any size. Diesel rules the hauler market for lots of very good reasons.

Paired with that 2-speed axle, something like a mechanical Cummins 6BT would make for a pretty economical and durable combo. And such a swap is not that costly or complicated. Funny thing is, you can buy the mechanical sixes for half the price of the old fours.

Just my dos centavos.
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Old 05-03-2015, 01:02 PM   #4
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The engine will eat you up alive. Every dollar you spend filling your tank will be one less dollar you have to spend on your bus.
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The engine will eat you up alive. Every dollar you spend filling your tank will be one less dollar you have to spend on your bus.
Agreed. I got ~10mpg driving my 03 Amtran from Maine to NJ with a T444E turbo under the rear deck. A gasser would have been completely cost prohibitive with today's prices.
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My ford/Thomas gas bus got about 3-4 mpg.
My current bus is a Ward and I'm very happy with it.
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My ford/Thomas gas bus got about 3-4 mpg.
My current bus is a Ward and I'm very happy with it.
What engine do you have in it? What is your average MPG?
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Old 05-03-2015, 10:34 PM   #8
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Try to find a bus with an 8.3 or 5.9 Cummins or International DT360, DT466, 444E. I have no personal experience but I understand that a Cat 3116 and 3126 are expensive to repair.
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Try to find a bus with an 8.3 or 5.9 Cummins or International DT360, DT466, 444E. I have no personal experience but I understand that a Cat 3116 and 3126 are expensive to repair.
444E is essentially a Ford 7.3L Powerstroke. Very easy to get parts anywhere. Porkchopsandwiches detailed all the problems (and expenses) he's had with his Cat-powered Thomas. The problem with Cat, AFAIK, is that they're proprietary, so you *have* to go to a Cat dealer for parts.
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What engine do you have in it? What is your average MPG?
DT466.
Ive only put about a thousand miles on it so far but somewhere in the 9-10mpg range.
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