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Old 05-03-2016, 09:44 PM   #1
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A friend's church is selling their 2000 Bluebird 3800 with the 7.3 diesel and I am in lust! Only 40,000 miles and looks it inside, out, and under. Maintained always by a church-member who is part of a truck-repair company. They want close to $10,000 but is seems to my ignorant person as a rare jewel, even though 28 feet long is a little bigger than my target size. I was thinking of offering 8,000 as an opening salvo. Tomorrow I will get to drive it around the parking lot. I would appreciate any thoughts or things to look out for.
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My opinion, that seems like a pretty high price for a 16 year old bus. That is low mileage and that's worth something. Our normal bus purchases usually have between 160-200k miles. A bus that does not have the Allison 545 is preferred.

It's going to be difficult for anyone here to make a judgement call on a bus we've never seen, even in pics. Based on recent past purchases here I think it is fair to say that bus can be had for between $3k and $4k. Dealer price would be about $8k.

I don't believe the church will be able to sell that bus for anywhere near $10k. I would express interest and wait for the price to seriously go down. It's a personal call though if you think it's the right bus.
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:42 AM   #4
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Thank You! Lots of good points....I had heard talk of the 545 and tried to get #s from below and didn't see any. The biggest challenge was parking this thing in my yard so maybe it's not the "perfect" bus for me...I like the idea of expressing interest and seeing what happens...while doing more looking at other buses available. I guess I was caught up in the fantastic appearance of the thing! Thanks again! John
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Thanks! I should at least do that and see what they say. Better to know exactly how this bus fits in with other deals in the area. Being new to this I like the idea of something in a relatively "cherry" condition thinking there may be fewer "on the roadside" adventures in wrenching! Thanks, John
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A point I've made in the past-you really need to come up with a realistic idea of how many miles you plan to put on a bus. 5k a year? 1 long trip a year? 3 hour trip to the inlaws to camp for a week? 5k a year EVERY year for 20 years is 100k miles-before its a 140k bus--still not even broken in. You'll end up spending the same amount on time sensitive items-like tires. (with only 40 k on it, i bet they are original--them are some old tires.) Remember-low or hi miles-the bus is going to be parked far more than time on the road.
Low miles is nice-but i don't think its worth paying more than twice as much as a maintianed bus with 140k or 240k on it. None of us operate a bus the way it was designed or was used in its prior life. Buses like getting owned by us.
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I agree with determining how many miles you will actually drive.. AND to that end if you dont plan a lot of highway driving, who cares about the AT545.. the AT545 is not unreliable just a lot of people dont desire it because its not super great on the highway esp in mountains...

for me, I plan to drive LOTS of miles so the fact I found a bus with only 40k on the drivetrain was advantageous.. but you can get mich lower prices even at a bus dealer than they want to charge at the church... esp if you are going to put not too many miles on.. yo ucan get a higher mileage bus for much less money..
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Interesting....Yeah, any bus I get will likely be getting rather easy use. I could probably go a long time with a bus with more miles and have lower cost of ownership. These are all good points that I hadn't considered enough. There is obviously some "puppy-love" going on between this bus and me! This has helped to get me in more of a rational frame of mind...
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Well Johnny, if we couldn't talk you out of buying a bus for to much money then you've obviously just got to much money. Now there's your problem.

That does sound like a great bus. I'd actually value that bus at about $5,000 in this venue if it was in quite nice shape as you say. Bus dealers would probably be double that price, which matches where the church has their mind. There are a lot of buses being sold around the country. $10k is a rich asking price in my opinion and you're not going to get any warranty. How about we help you get two buses for $10k?
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