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Old 05-19-2015, 10:25 PM   #11
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:39 PM   #12
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I've never been able to name mechanical things. IDK I just ever can bring myself to.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:32 PM   #13
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I'm definitely someone that has for certain things I guess. Some stuff just seems to have character and its own essence I guess. The old Gilligs and Crowns and the sort really capture that in my eyes. I can only imagine the build process and the people involved. Then again my newer cars seem to hold my interest in the same way even though they are mass produced hunks of metal and plastic. Kinda hard to really describe it ha. Not that it needs describing. People who name their stuff get it. People who don't just don't care to? Ugh. Rant...
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Old 05-20-2015, 02:33 AM   #14
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Great looking old gem.

I name everything. Hell, some stuff and a few people I know have more than one name.

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Old 05-20-2015, 03:17 AM   #15
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Thanks everyone. We certainly got lucky. I also feel like we cheated the conversion process but with a family, a time crunch and physical limitations, it was the right choice. At lease now we can change what we need as we go.

As far as names, I have a few and I'm sure the wife does too haha. Gotta narrow it down haha
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:29 AM   #16
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:30 AM   #17
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It would appear as if you have found a really nice conversion that will do for you for a long time.

Gilligs have a real penchant for rusting along the drip rails. Don't let it get started or you will have a real bad problem very quickly. It gets particularly bad at the ends but above the driver's window, service door, and at the back where it curves down.

Is your bus one of the few that left the factory with aluminum body panels? Gillig offered aluminum to compete with Crown. Not many were ordered that way because with alumunum panels they became more expensive than Crowns.

The 1160 was the first in the series that became the 3208. Some would argue that it was a better engine than the 3208. It has some problems the biggest being that it is a Cat. The pump is one of those dealer only service items.

The other real problem with Gillig rear engine buses is they never had enough radiator to cool properly. I have never figured out how a bus designed and built in CA wouldn't have enough radiator for a bus in service in WA. You would think it would be over cooled since so much of CA is desert. Make sure there are no voids around the radiator. You want 100% of the air the fan is pulling is pulling through the core of the radiator and not from around the sides.

Do not over tighten the fan drive belt. You only need that belt to be tight enough to turn the fan without slipping. Too tight and you run the distinct risk of trashing the fan bearing. Those are not cheap or easy to find--BTDT!

Compared to new buses Gillig and Crown buses were overbraked. You will find the front brakes are wider than morst new buses rear brakes. The rear brakes are HUGE! Most were 11" wide. Some were as wide as 13" in the rear with 7" in the front. Used judiciously and you proablly will never have to do a brake job.

Good luck and happy trails!
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Old 05-20-2015, 11:03 AM   #18
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Thanks again! Great info cowlitz thanks. I may have read some of that info in a post of yours prior to buying and knew to try and look when buying. Didn't know Gillig offered aluminum panels so I need to look closer. Cooling system stayed at 190 on tough passes even in Cali but I shut her down as it hinted above and found my radiator cap had come off. A fun story. Needless to say the cap was in the compartment and with a fluid top off and rest she climbed the rest to get a new tight cap at the top. Ha. Anyway, another note, is there a cowlitz river or something of the sort I went over in the Oregon area?
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Old 05-20-2015, 12:00 PM   #19
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Sweeeet! --- Looks like you are way ahead of most of us already. Best of luck with the build out and thanks for your service. Always good to see another Vet here.
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:14 PM   #20
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The Cowlitz River is in WA state.

If you traveled down I-5 in WA state you would have crossed the Cowlitz River at Cowlitz Landing. That is about mile post #58.

Every Gillig RE I have ever driven or repaired always puked out coolant out of the overflow. It was if the top tank wasn't big enough.

Our church has a 1979 Gillig RE on which I finally had a coolant recovery tank installed. It has paid for itself in coolant I haven't had to add many times over.
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