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Old 10-13-2015, 10:50 AM   #11
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The difference is enough to make FE layouts noticeably more maneuverable.
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:50 AM   #12
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The difference is enough to make FE layouts noticeably more maneuverable.
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Thanks. Is there a difference between a FE and RE where the steering gear box is concerned? In other words, since the steering gear is the other factor besides the wheel base, is there a difference between how FE and RE steering boxes are geared? For that matter, are ALL bus steering gear boxes the same? This could obviously make a significant difference in the turning radius. Thanks again.

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Old 10-14-2015, 10:15 AM   #13
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I'm unsure on any of that.
But the closer the front and rear wheels are together, the tighter the turning radius.
Right now I only need 40 acres to turn this rig around.
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:22 PM   #14
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Nice! I'm sure I'll be able to find that info somewhere.

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I'm back...had a baby (well, my wife), holidays, busy at work, yard work, four kids...but I'm even more convinced now that we're gonna live on a bus. I'm thinkin' we're gonna go with the longest pusher we can get with a rear engine. Everything I've read seems to point to the Cummins 8.3 or the International DT466 (non-electronic) with an Allison transmission (the 3060 seems to be preferred). I plan on going everywhere the bus can take us, and am curious as to whether you have any experience with climbing with your DT466. I grew up visiting the Smokies every year, and would love to visit the Rockies (never been there), but I know those passes were a challenge for some of our family vehicles back then, and certainly want an engine with plenty of power to climb them without issue. Thoughts?
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The older buses, quite literally, "drive like a bus." That's where the saying comes from. I had an older 40' dognose that couldn't negotiate a 90* turn between suburban city blocks without backing up before completing the turn. I removed the stops on the front axle and didn't gain anything noticeably.

This bus is pretty amazing at turning, and getting stuck easily. I may need a winch, because next time I might not be lucky enough for the ground to freeze.

Does anybody know why there's a number of stacks of steel plates hanging between the rear frame rails? Is that to keep me from tipping over frontwards when I stop to fast?
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Oh, congratulations Geick. I'm glad it wasn't you. Hope your wife is doing ok. What did you get?

I think the greater majority here would say the non-e 466 and your planned 3060 is a good plan. You know what to look for and people here already think it's a good idea.
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Does anybody know why there's a number of stacks of steel plates hanging between the rear frame rails?
Say what? Got a pic?
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Ok, here you go.

Rear view. What you're seeing is the supports for the steel plates.


Again showing the support from the side.








It's just not easy taking pics with a laptop in the sun. Initially I though it was some kind of boxes hung there, but looking closer it appears to be five stacks of steel plates. I don't know the function.
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