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Old 05-12-2015, 02:36 AM   #1
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Been loving this forum for a number of months now, reading up and taking lots of notes. I've had my eye on a BB All American nearby and I'm going down to look at it next week. 8.2 cummins, md 3060, 70k miles, 84 passenger. Picture attached.

The owner mentioned a price that is a little over my budget, but i think hes has some room to work so im staying optimistic. Anyway, assuming we can arrive at a price, i wanted to get some opinions on bus size. I've seen a lot of 65 passenger busses on here and wondering if the 84 passenger will be a bit limiting in some aspects. Obviously a shortie is going to have an easier time finding a place to park, but i wanted to hear from the frontlines if the 84 passenger will be limited to rv parks, developed campgrounds and the like.

We (my partner, our 3 year old daughter, our dog and i) plan to full time on the bus once its completed (a year? 2?) and although the ultimate goal is to find a beautiful spot to park it, we're not completely sold on where we want to set up shop. We've spent some time in N. Arizona and N. Cali but there are still a lot of places we want to check out (oregon, colorado, maine). Any suggestions of hidden jems worth exploring are welcome I've been guiding in the grand canyon for the past few year and cant wait to check out some more of our national parks!

Anyway, i'd love to hear some thoughts on going with a big/medium bus. I'm pretty much decided on getting the big one, but i just need someone to tell me its going to be ok ( I may need further reassurance in a few months but that's a different story). The bus will serve as an p/t office and a homeschool in addition to our living space and although the goal it to be outside, i think we'll be greatfull for the extra space.

Cant wait to get the grinder going! Many thanks for the great information posted here!

Note to the forum ops: I'm also a web developer and would be interested to hear any ideas for upgrades (to the site) or other tasks that i might be able to assist with. I love a new project.
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Old 05-12-2015, 04:51 AM   #2
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Bus size is best done in feet not passenger capacity, most buses are 35 to 40 ft long, flat front have more inside space but also more noise, unless RE(rear engine)

Ours is 35 ft and I would of gotten a 40 ft, knowing what I know now

The 3/4 full size are great for 1 person and a few animals they range from 25 to 30 ft, but have full size running gear and super short wheel base, great for cities and old tight parks

Yours looks like a 40 ft

Everything is subject to change ;)
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:34 AM   #3
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Looks like a great bus, as long as you've got 40 acres to turn that rig around!
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:52 AM   #4
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Bus size is best done in feet not passenger capacity, most buses are 35 to 40 ft long, flat front have more inside space but also more noise, unless RE(rear engine)
RE's, IMO, also seem to ride better. I've driven an BBAA FE shorty from Atlantic City NJ to Watertown NY that was (very) partially loaded (about 10 people and gear), and felt like I was bouncing all over I-81. The previous year involved a full size Thomas RE (same-ish # of pax and gear), and it handled like a dream. And hauling my Amtran (37') down from Maine last year, completely unloaded, was also a dream with very little bouncing. Of course it took a 27 point K turn to get it into the driveway, but it got in.
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price , miles , tire date, ceiling height, did it just come out of service?
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FE has some advantages.
Turning radius and rear door are two of them.
This bus you're asking about looks pretty sweet, OP. If I were bus shopping I'd be all over it.
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Only thing that stopped me from a RE at the time was it had storage wheel to wheel and break over clearance was/is a concern...I now know next bus or this one ;) will have a bigger engine and better trans, that's all I would change, from our platform, I need the clearance
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Length can be an issue in places like national parks. You'd need to call ahead and ask what their maximum size is.
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Going by looks, that looks like a 40ft, late 80's early 90's AARE with high roof. Stated seating capacity really doesn't tell you much. It depends on seat configuration. My 40ft Bluebird was only rated for 60 something.
Rear engine buses ride better because all of that weight in the rear. They also have more usable room inside. BlueBird rear engines are also easier to work on the engine because the whole back opens up. You can pretty much reach everything without having to crawl over tires and radiator. RE buses are also the quietest of the bunch, I can hardly hear mine run.
Forty feet is as long as you can get in a school bus, I haven't had, nor do I foresee any problems finding a place to park.
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