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Old 03-06-2017, 07:55 AM   #11
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im thinking a short bus with a retarder will be a harder find... on a full-size chassis, whether hydraulic disk, or air drum, yout typically have the same braking surface area as a full size bus.. so you may not need a retarder, running a lot lighter than a full length bus..

im convinced thats why the AT545 transmission in my RedByrd isnt a big issue like many people talk about, as that bus is much lighter, so the little bit of holding power a 545 has actually is noticeable and helps.. plus I have never seen my trans temp in RedByrd go over 160 degrees. all stock cooling.. and that was blasting it up and down the sky-way bridge hill several times in 88 degree heat.. ..

in a full size bus I would want a retarder or Jake-brake, or at least a good solid transmission to go over the mountains.. but in a short bus it may not be necessary.. thus tough to find..

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Old 03-06-2017, 08:14 AM   #12
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Oh, its ON!!!
You just name the time and place!

note- with the 19.5's and probably a few more hp, you'll probably SMOKE my heavy AmTran. Would still be a good time!
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Old 03-06-2017, 08:18 AM   #13
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Would still be a good time!
thats what im thinkin.. bunch of skoolies go to a local 1/4 mile track on Test N tune night or "run-what-ya-brung" night and turn the tuners world upside down..

oops I hijacked this dude's thread..

we were talking about finding a PNW capable bus right??

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Old 03-06-2017, 05:11 PM   #14
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It's too bad. We see a handful of DT's in short buses but no 8.3's. I am a BIG Cummins fan. 8.3 & MD-3060 in my Bluebird (but no retarder ). I would love to have a retarder. My last bus had Jake's and I made good use of them.

I wonder how the Colorado buses are geared? Good mountain gearing may not play well for highway running. I bought min out of Oregon and it came with 5.38 gears and the MD-3060 has 6th locked out (typical on school buses). It will run 70 mph at about 2250 RPM.
The one I was about to purchase and made a thread about a couple months ago was pretty much exactly how yours is just with a retarder. 5.38 gear ratio as well.
I really missed out on the exact bus I wanted. Now I'm forever looking for a bluebird pre 1998 with an RE 8.3 & MD-3060 and the handicap lift in the middle.


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Old 03-06-2017, 05:39 PM   #15
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