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Old 10-21-2016, 08:22 PM   #1
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Year: 1990
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What have I done?

We just bought a bus on an auction website. What did we get ourselves into? I will be asking for lots of help. Not sure I even know how to drive it.


Item Description: 1990 International 3800 Model Carpenter School bus 65 passenger school bus DTA-360 Diesel automatic 195,436 miles. Bus runs great, has rust underneath on crossmembers and floor, good tires all around
Model: International
Specifications: 3800 model
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:33 PM   #2
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We just bought a bus on an auction website. What did we get ourselves into? I will be asking for lots of help. Not sure I even know how to drive it.


Item Description: 1990 International 3800 Model Carpenter School bus 65 passenger school bus DTA-360 Diesel automatic 195,436 miles. Bus runs great, has rust underneath on crossmembers and floor, good tires all around
Model: International
Specifications: 3800 model
I think we all ask ourselves the same thing after taking that first step...
http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f9/am-i-crazy-11160.html
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:01 PM   #3
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You'll wanna get aggressive removing the rust and repairing the damage. Frames and chassis rust is the worst kind.
Best of luck, and welcome to the forum.
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:41 PM   #4
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Yea that "What have i done?!" panic lasts a little while, but fortunately the sweet joy of the bus disolves it completely withing a month or two.

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Old 10-22-2016, 12:04 AM   #5
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Welcome aboard!
You might want to find out if your Carpenter was built at the Mitchell, Indiana, factory. Use the link I'm posting here. If it is a Mitchell bus, you would want to inspect those welds, and perhaps get a skilled welder/fabricator to reinforce them.
If the bus was built at the Richmond plant, you have nothing to worry about.

Carpenter School Bus Advisory

Your engine is a reliable model.

You might want identify your transmission -- an AT 545, or an MT 643, are the most likely. There is a "sticky" thread somewhere around here for that.

Keep us posted!
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Old 10-22-2016, 05:59 AM   #6
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wow almost like my bus!! mine is 91 7 ROW carpenter..

if that was bus used for school service after the weld issue was discovered it was a required repair or the bus wouldve been decommiosioned.. good idea to check but its most likely been fixed.. i know my 91 from ohio it was..

biggest nemesis ive dealt with on my carpenter DT-360 is engine heat in the cabin.. the way carpenter failed to seal the engine compartment from the cabin at the plywood floor level makes for some warm summer drives...

rust is everywhere... scrape it off.. ospho it paint it and be done...

and have fun in a good solid bus!!
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Old 10-22-2016, 07:47 AM   #7
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Hahaha you took the words right out of my mouth....I just won my bus at auction yesterday and all I could think about last night was OMG, so I'm really gonna do this thing?
Good luck to you
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Old 10-22-2016, 07:58 AM   #8
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We just bought a bus on an auction website. What did we get ourselves into? I will be asking for lots of help. Not sure I even know how to drive it.


Item Description: 1990 International 3800 Model Carpenter School bus 65 passenger school bus DTA-360 Diesel automatic 195,436 miles. Bus runs great, has rust underneath on crossmembers and floor, good tires all around
Model: International
Specifications: 3800 model
Welcome!!!! I kind of said the same thing when I won last month

Now I'm in the middle of my build out. I found driving it from VA to FL very easy and I was comfortable right from the get go, you will be too!

Enjoy... welcome to skoolie life

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Old 10-22-2016, 07:59 AM   #9
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Hahaha you took the words right out of my mouth....I just won my bus at auction yesterday and all I could think about last night was OMG, so I'm really gonna do this thing?
Good luck to you
Welcome to you, too!!!!

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Old 10-22-2016, 08:32 AM   #10
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my problem is i cant stop driving the busses long enough to do anything to them

I think I could easily drive a bus as a daily driver..

wait.. I often do..


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