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Old 02-18-2019, 12:44 PM   #1
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You people are insane...

You people are ... insanely informative and helpful!


I've been reading the forum for a while, picking up tidbits, here n' there. Such a wealth of information in so many threads -- I have a little book of notes I've taken -- every time I find something of value, I dump in in there, and then reread the other notes. Great stuff!


So who the H*LL am I? I'm Dave aka Ghan (pronounced "GAN") -- I'm computer guy by trade, a fixer, a builder, a creator... I'm not artsy, but I'm very handy.



I ride motorcycles (~10k mi a year) and do offroad w/ 4WD trucks. I've built Jeeps, Toyotas, Samurai, Rovers -- I currently have a 2005 Land Rover LR3 I lovingly refer to as 'the woods beater' ... I recently picked up a 2019 Honda Pioneer 1000-5 to try this mode of offroad transportation / exploration. I'm looking forward to traveling from Northeastern CT up to NH / Maine / VT for some trail riding, perhaps down to TN/NC/Alabama as well... This brings me to your fine little corner of the web.


I'm toying around with building a toy hauler / camper out of a big-as-I-can-find bus. I'd like to do a camouflaged rear door that would drop down as the back of the bus, to be able to put the Honda into the back of the bus, enclosed style. Width will not be a problem (63" wide) but height sure will be. 6'7" is how tall this Honda is. So, looking like a roof raise, even if I found one of the 'tall ceiling' ones, as that'll still be at the center, I've assumed!


With that said, a 10-11' area in the back of the bus for the Honda, and living quarters up front. Wife's not keen on a composting toilet in the slightest, so I may end up going full plumbing/shower/kitchen.



That's all well and good, but I'm basically at a roadblock for more real planning, as I don't have a bus to measure and figure out.



This is where things go off the rails.



I've picked up lots of links from you guys already. Obviously, craigslist, eBay, 422 auctions, govdeals, buscrazy, public surplus...



Living in CT -- anything local will be rusty. Period. Anything distant would be great, but how the heck do I get it home? CT may, or most likely will not give me temps for a bus to fly out and drive back. Shipping a bus from AL or NV would be more than the cost of the bus, I expect. Newer buses that are local w/ less rust are newer 2007-2013, with full on emissions nightmare engines... so I really think the sweet spot is 2004-2006 to avoid a non lockup trans, with EGR, but pre DEF/DPF nonsense.


Normally, this isn't much of an issue, I'd drive to VA w/ a trailer and bring something home. A bus would be a stretch even for my F350, I think?


What would YOU guys do in my situation on the East Coast, rust belt zone?


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Old 02-18-2019, 12:55 PM   #2
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I'm working my way up to something like this-
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/199...120-5005194038

Would make a nice tow rig, eh?

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Old 02-18-2019, 02:19 PM   #3
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Welcome! The 6'7" height will limit your choices of buses, but you should be able to find something without having to do a roof raise.

As for temp reg - some states have temp regs for non-residents so check that out once you find one you like.

We are doing a build which will have a 10' workshop in the back a 16.5' of living space up front. Sounds like a similar layout for your plans. We also were opposed to composting toilets, but after checking out vids and reviews it looks like that is the way we're going.

You may want to back up a few years - 2000 to 2003 for few emissions, at least that's what our International shop recommended when we were shopping. Good luck!
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Old 02-18-2019, 03:58 PM   #4
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Urgent - Looking to purchase skoolie today - need advice

Can anyone on here tell me if buying this skoolie is a good idea?
1999 international 3800
air brakes
no rust
95% thread on tires up front.
25% thread on rear tires
270k miles (miles scare me)

has been gutted and insulated on roof and floor
comes with fridge and more
plus its a only a couple hour drive from me

Thinking about bidding at $2,500

Thanks in advance


https://www.ebay.com/itm/99-Internat...OTzp:rk:1:pf:0
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:07 PM   #5
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Ct. does issue temporary permits. My buddy Jack had to get one to take the Airstream home from here in Ga.
The electrical issues you foresee in the 07-13 actually started transition in 04, so your 05-06 have the same potential gremlins.
Where would ermracing find a school bus with a ceiling height more than 6'6"?
Keep in mind while you may end up with a 6'6" ceiling, getting something that tall through the back opening may be difficult without a full barn door like speedricks.
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:19 PM   #6
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I know the newer style Thomas Saf-T-Liners are tall, but then I guess we're getting on the wrong side of the emissions issue.

Maybe get some low profile tires/smaller wheels for the Honda when loading it? The guys that hillclimb their Troyer modifieds mount up skinny tires/wheels in order to get them on their trailers.
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:44 PM   #7
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It's my understanding that the 04-06 would be good - the non lockup trans after basically gone, and the only emissions stuff added is an EGR, not the DEF/DPF stuff. Am i incorrect? Sure, it'll be computer controlled, but that part by itself doesn't worry me so much. Every diesel car / truck I have had in the past decade had that.

I do know CT does temps - but not sure how it'll work, since it's over the 10k weight limit, and it's not converted to an RV yet?

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Old 02-18-2019, 05:47 PM   #8
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Can anyone on here tell me if buying this skoolie is a good idea?

1999 international 3800

air brakes

no rust

95% thread on tires up front.

25% thread on rear tires

270k miles (miles scare me)



has been gutted and insulated on roof and floor

comes with fridge and more

plus its a only a couple hour drive from me



Thinking about bidding at $2,500



Thanks in advance





https://www.ebay.com/itm/99-Internat...OTzp:rk:1:pf:0
I would have zero interest in a bus that already is having cooling issues...
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:49 PM   #9
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This link looks like you can be up to 18k GVW.

https://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=810&q=314558
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This link looks like you can be up to 18k GVW.

https://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=810&q=314558
10 day permit for $49 for vehicles with a GVWR of 6000 lbs and more. The 18k is for Inspection Purposes Only.
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