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Old 01-17-2018, 03:34 PM   #1
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Young and (over?)ambitious

Hi all,

Firstly, glad to be here. I'm sure I'll be spending just a TON of time here reading over the wealth of information on this forum that I've started to skim, but I figured I'd go ahead and put this introduction down so I can be hopefully garnering replies while I gather information.

A little about my skoolie ambitions and why my title is what it is first. I'm 24, my partner is 25, our dog is 8, and we have not much a savings to speak of due to drifting through life in a dis-enfranchised fashion up till this point. Now that we've got a dream to work towards we've turned all that around and are rapidly building a solid financial base to begin this, though I'm sure the actual process will quickly reverse that.

I've got a decent head for mechanics and a heavy DIY attitude, but no formal training and better on the wood-working side of it being a contractor's son who grew up helping out. So while I firmly believe in my ability to create a comfortable living space I'm worried about purchasing the right bus, so after this I'll be looking for the spot to post what I've found and see what people think. Looking for a larger bus, more on that in whatever separate thread I create.

We really intend to turn this into a lifestyle and start a blog/social media presence as we're both pretty tech-savvy and I love to write. We've both spent our whole lives in a college town in south central Indiana and done not much travelling besides myself pedaling a little bicycle 10K miles around the country while in high-school.

We've already got all the space and tools we need once we have the bus, thank goodness. Now just for materials and, y'know, the bus...

We intend to be hitting the road when our lease ends, July 31st, 2018. No idea if that's even possible but dangit, we're gonna try our hardest. Now if I could just quit these cigarettes...

So in short, young, broke, maybe a little dumb and ambitious but capable enough in theory. Whatcha think our chances are, and what would be one piece of advice you'd give us?

Thanks in advance for your time, and I'm real excited to join the community here. All the best to you and yours! -Noah
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:51 PM   #2
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If you're going to be living in it full time it would be really good if you could make insulation a priority. I don't know where you intend to spend your winters, but hot or cold, insulation in important.

Sure you can do it. Don't try living in a metal can in adverse conditions.
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:41 PM   #3
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Thanks for being my first reply!

Oh yeah, I've definitely realized by now through research that insulation is vital, especially as we do intend on living in it full time. We are excited partially because we're planning to avoid the cold as much as possible because we're both string beans who lose our toes in a matter of minutes (5 degrees with 7 inches on the ground here right now, I'm miserable) but we also want to spend a lot of time in the south west where we'll have to fight the oven factor. Though I'm personally pretty comfortable up to 120 degrees dry heat as long as I've got water, dunno what that's about, both my brothers are cold weather folks. Maybe it's because they've both got about 30-60 pounds on me. But yes, insulation as the very first piece of advice directly given, that certainly drives the point home!

While I'm here, I have been looking at this... What do folks think?

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Old 01-17-2018, 04:44 PM   #4
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Hey you sound just like me! (more or less)

And lemme tell ya: I don't care what the odds are, I'm taking my chances. I feel it's worth it, and I can't even say I'm mechanically or tool or tech savvy. I'll be doing this mostly alone.

Your timeline is similar to mine, I'd love to be out of here and in my bus by Fall 2018 or so. (not sure I'll be happy trying to travel in the winter)

I agree with Robin, I've been researching this project for almost two years, and doing insulation right is a MUST. You want comfort? Invest in GOOD insulation. Do your own research. I spent months tossing around on the insulation issue, and FINALLY decided on spray foam and rigid foam on top. But don't take my word for it, research! (I LOVE research, so this project, while so far mostly research, has already been so much fun for me.)

This is the FUN of this project: it's ALL YOURS! You get to choose and shape EVERY DETAIL of your bus!

I'm next door in Illinois, and I also wanna quit smoking. Kinda takes up some of the money I'm saving for the bus but it also keeps me from going nuts so, small trades I figure, for now...

GO for it. Glad to have you here. Nothing beats a notebook and clicky pencil for scrawling floorplans and notes. Create a bus we can all smile at when you share pics. Create a bus that FEELS like HOME to you.

I'd say your odds are at least as good as mine Noah, and I'm sure as hell betting on myself.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:07 PM   #5
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Hey you sound just like me! (more or less)

And lemme tell ya: I don't care what the odds are, I'm taking my chances. I feel it's worth it, and I can't even say I'm mechanically or tool or tech savvy. I'll be doing this mostly alone.

Your timeline is similar to mine, I'd love to be out of here and in my bus by Fall 2018 or so. (not sure I'll be happy trying to travel in the winter)

I agree with Robin, I've been researching this project for almost two years, and doing insulation right is a MUST. You want comfort? Invest in GOOD insulation. Do your own resea...
Thanks for the encouragement! Glad I'm not the only crazy kid embarking on this adventure. Seems like a lot of this community are post 30's, which can be discouraging when comparing stability, knowledge, and prep time, so love hearing that there's others who are just absolutely winging it.

Good on you for going into this rather alone, that's impressive. Having a partner to help has been a huge boon, they've been handling a lot of the figuring and research regarding how to remain profitable and secure while I've been tasked with the more hands-on stuff, hence my presence here. I'm a doing kinda guy though so all this research is getting me really amped/frustrated to get my hands on something though, dunno how long I can hold out, hahaha. Already learned a lot just from the couple hours I've been browsing! Kinda to be expected I might say considering we've only been hedging on this for...a month now? Wasn't even in the pipes before but we're pushing through. I might need to get back on my ADD meds though, lol.

Alright, that's two direct "INSULATE, FOOL" advices, gonna erase that from the requirements and write it in even bigger. It was already pretty huge, too, oh boy!

Oh, speaking of floor plans, I'd like to share our very first mock-up of the floor-plan! Also have a side-side split down the middle mockup but haven't uploaded it yet. Hand-drawn since I'm still figuring out my little brother's copy of AutoDesk Fusion 360. Glad I've got my contractor dad to help with that when it comes to it. I'm sure we made some glaring error somewhere in here though and would like anyone's input before we do the next draft!
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:41 PM   #6
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We were living in our bus 45 days after I bought it, and to be fair we weren't working that hard to get it ready.

We literally started with "What do we need to do to sleep here at night?", did those things, and started sleeping in the bus every night. Then we did the same idea for the things we needed to spend the day in the bus. Not every feature on your list needs to be a "Day 1" feature, and half the things you think are critical now you will realize you can live without. We spent all of last year travelling around the US without really adding much beyond our initial build, and when we got back "home" we started taking things out we didn't need after all.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:48 PM   #7
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Your welcome! I meant every word! This bus project has kept me going for more than a year now, I'm happy to encourage others to join the Skoolie life, especially those like me who almost have no idea what they're doing. Don't be discouraged or intimidated by the experience of others, if they're willing to share it for free, consume at will with gratitude and humility.

I'm 28, dunno if that busts your illusions but it's the truth lol I'm living with my grandparents right now, working min wage at a buffet, saving what I can and trying to sell a classic car, all for funds to buy a bus. I was actually gonna go bus hunting monday, someone local has a bus I wanna check out, but the weather's been crappy so I'm just enjoying a late Xmas break...

Yeah, wingin it alone. Not even worried. I expect problems to arise, but I will meet each and every one of them best I can, probably with the help of the forum and any mechanically clever friends I have. (I luckily have a few, and they will be compensated in a fair friend manner. )

Glad to hear you have a partner in this venture though. It would be pretty fun to work on something like this with someone else. <3 You both have my romantic smiles and happy wishes.

Yeah, the "Insulate FOOL!" message is clear, but it comes from the experience of everyone here, and I'm just taking their message to heart. I didn't like it, but adding two DIY spray foam kits to my budget appears to be absolutely worth it. On amazon and ebay two kits, which would cover an average sized bus, (ten windows or so) would run you a little over a grand. A small price to pay for temperature control. I plan on moving north or west to the mountains, so I decided to spare no expense on insulation. My bus will be kinda rustique in design, but it will be me, and hopefully it will be temperate, so there we go, it's worth it.

Nice floorplan! Can't speak for how well it is though, I've drawn up more than two dozen floorplans myself, getting better each time, closer to what I want and also what I need. I'm not sure about what your wants and needs are in a small space, so I can't speak for any improvements.

Sorry for the kinda crappy images, but here's a couple of my floorplans.
Good luck with your bus, it's gonna be a fun journey.
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:42 PM   #8
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Dreamweaver, what classic car are you try to sell?
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:28 PM   #9
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Better to be "... young, broke, maybe a little dumb and ambitious", than



old, broke, maybe a little dumb and ambitious.



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Old 01-17-2018, 09:14 PM   #10
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Tango,
I strongly agree with you. I'll be 70 before I'm even going to look for abus. But here I am, reading the posts every night, just like a kid. I want a bus. I do wish I'd bought one years ago. I've already had one heart attack, never want another one. I do want a bus.
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