Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-28-2009, 09:44 AM   #11
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New England
Posts: 1,009
Year: 1993
Coachwork: Ward Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/MT643
Rated Cap: 77
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

That sounds like plain and simple incompetence on the rebuilder's part, no more and no less. The 4L60E in my old Caprice wagon was the second-worst trans the guy at Triangle had ever seen (the TC was had gotten so hot it was discolored)...I was still able to drive it about 14 miles from where I bought it to the shop (it wouldn't go past second gear), despite the trans being so cooked the only thing he was able to reuse was the case. (His best guess: the fluid might have topped 350 degrees.)

The idiot who owned it pulled a 6500lb boat with no tow package and trans cooler.

I've seen a TH-700 holding up to a 2-ton Super Bee powered by a crossrammed EFI 426 Hemi (yes, I absolutely did say it has a crossrammed EFI 426 Hemi) with an easy 550HP (it's a low 12-second car with 3.54 gears). The same guy has a TH-700 behind a 454 Chevy in a 10-ton Pace Arrow tag-axle class A motorhome. (He owns a shop that specializes in TH-700's.)
__________________
Jarlaxle
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Optimism is a mental disorder.
Jarlaxle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2009, 09:42 PM   #12
Bus Geek
 
the_experience03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
Send a message via MSN to the_experience03 Send a message via Yahoo to the_experience03
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

You should be able to get that transfer case into neutral by shifting the transmission to neutral and then simultaneously holding 4hi and 4lo while in 2hi. Of course I would still advise against flat towing it that way for any real distance.
__________________
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/...09f20d39_m.jpg
Skooling it...one state at a time...
the_experience03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2009, 10:22 PM   #13
Bus Geek
 
the_experience03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
Send a message via MSN to the_experience03 Send a message via Yahoo to the_experience03
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

Well now I'm not so sure given the age of that thing. My initial reaction was to assume it was a New Venture 233 transfer case which is part time and has the ability to go into neutral provided there is someway of inputing that to the TCCM. I know some of the with the old knob style required you to turn past 2hi to the "hidden" neutral position and others required the sequence I said. Now I'm wondering if you don't have the same Borg Warner 4472 transfer case used in the Olds Bravada. I suppose the easiest way to tell would be to crawl under and look at the tag on the t-case. If all else fails try and see if you can turn the front driveshaft by hand with the vehicle in park. Is there a disconnect on the long-side front axle tube?
__________________
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/...09f20d39_m.jpg
Skooling it...one state at a time...
the_experience03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2010, 01:05 AM   #14
Bus Geek
 
the_experience03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
Send a message via MSN to the_experience03 Send a message via Yahoo to the_experience03
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

Hey you...bringer of the transmission bad luck...

So here we are about a year later...I swapped a reasonable 700R4 (Alto stacks, Gil Younger kit, etc) into my beater C2500. Last Friday night it was -30 outside and I had to take a little trip. Wouldn't you know it...the 2-3 shift valve hung up just a little on the 2-3 upshift. The transmission decided to try and be in 2nd gear and 3rd gear at the same time. Now I have yet another 700R4 with the 3-4 clutch pack visible as black and sparkley fluid on the dipstick.

I sure do love automatics...
__________________
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/...09f20d39_m.jpg
Skooling it...one state at a time...
the_experience03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2010, 12:31 PM   #15
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Asheville NC area
Posts: 47
Year: 1976
Coachwork: Carpenter Cadet CV
Chassis: G 30
Engine: 350
Rated Cap: 23
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

My 95 GMC Jimmy just lost o.d. Christmas eve and it's the best vehicle i have. Best of luck with your 94.
spirit_of_76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2010, 07:01 PM   #16
Bus Geek
 
the_experience03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
Send a message via MSN to the_experience03 Send a message via Yahoo to the_experience03
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

Well...my old beater is going be become an organ donor to my Toyota crawler. I had been driving it around with just 1st and 2nd in town when I heard what sounded like a roots supercharger under the hood at a light. Within 5 blocks the alternator locked up solid and killed the motor. I took the serp belt off and limped her on home (no big fear of overheating in Minnesota this time of year) and bought a new beater...another '91 Chevy with a 700R4. But...this one had 4 new tires put on it within 100 miles of me buying it. People don't do that to vehicles on their way to the big junkyard in the sky...I don't think.
__________________
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/...09f20d39_m.jpg
Skooling it...one state at a time...
the_experience03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2010, 10:38 AM   #17
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New England
Posts: 1,009
Year: 1993
Coachwork: Ward Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/MT643
Rated Cap: 77
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

[quote=CHEESE_WAGON]
Quote:
Originally Posted by "spirit_of_76":3dy83jch
My 95 GMC Jimmy just lost o.d. Christmas eve and it's the best vehicle i have. Best of luck with your 94.
Unfortunately, I don't think a '95 can be swapped to a TH350. Probably the '94 can't either. Word of advice. Don't mess around with a used 700-R-JUNK or 4L60, they aren't worth the trouble, as you see from my experience. Much better off to have it rebuilt with updates.[/quote:3dy83jch]

The original 4L60E in my old Caprice went 108,000 miles, despite the idiot owner towing a 6500lb boat with no trans cooler (and no tow package, and a 3000lb hitch...and no wiring...). The trans guy's best guess: the fluid may have hit 400 degrees. The rebuild (stock except for a Corvette governor for firmer upshifts) was trouble-free with 60,000 miles (sold the car).
__________________
Jarlaxle
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Optimism is a mental disorder.
Jarlaxle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2010, 12:09 PM   #18
Bus Geek
 
the_experience03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
Send a message via MSN to the_experience03 Send a message via Yahoo to the_experience03
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

It doesn't have to be weak junk to be an overdrive. There are many overdrives out there that are pretty fantastic. The 4L80E is a pretty trouble-free transmission, as are the Dodge 46, 47, and 48 series transmissions once you get past the lack of a cold bypass on the older ones. Heck, I really don't even have issue with the 5R110 either aside from it needing expensive low viscosity fluid. And if we want to talk about lighter duty transmissions how about the Toyota A340/Jeep AW4? If you keep the fluid cool they last a LONG time without problems. There are just better designs and worse designed. GM seems to like the more complex designs which work WELL...when they work. But they get expensive in a hurry when something breaks and with that many moving parts something is bound to break.
__________________
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/...09f20d39_m.jpg
Skooling it...one state at a time...
the_experience03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2010, 01:05 PM   #19
Bus Geek
 
the_experience03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
Send a message via MSN to the_experience03 Send a message via Yahoo to the_experience03
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

Electronic controls are a GOOD thing though. Look at the newer transmissions used by everyone. They all have a tow-haul mode. This allows the transmission to up the line pressure and follow new mapping for upshifts and downshifts while still retaining a high mileage, low wear driving condition the rest of the time. You want a shift kit for your 4L60E? Cut the wire to the EPC solenoid and enjoy full line pressure all the time. Want your engine to heat up quickly? Electronic transmissions allow for logic that will warm up the engine faster by holding lower gears and keeping the converter out of lock up. Want the transmission to cool down faster when you're towing? They can do that too. A 41TE has logic in it that will lock the converter all the way down to 2nd gear to fight heat. Barring major mechanical hard part failure they will remain functional. How about diagnosing transmissions? It's no longer a guessing game when I can see specific clutch volume indexes or shift adaptives. Electronics aren't all bad. Remember...200,000 miles is the new 100,000 miles.
__________________
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/...09f20d39_m.jpg
Skooling it...one state at a time...
the_experience03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2010, 11:10 PM   #20
Bus Nut
 
bus-bro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 680
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
Re: ACK! My beater needs a transmission!!!

And 50 is the new 30.
bus-bro is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
T6H new look Transmission garbemi Mechanical and Drivetrains 4 12-04-2013 02:56 PM
Transmission... jkindt Ford Drivetrain 2 06-10-2010 10:59 AM
The Beater Thread the_experience03 Everything Else | General Skoolie Discussions 83 09-14-2008 08:20 PM
Transmission ID Coma Conversion General Discussions 2 12-11-2006 04:36 PM
Transmission ParadigmCrime Conversion General Discussions 5 07-13-2006 01:00 AM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.