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Old 02-26-2010, 05:23 AM   #41
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Re: Big single cylinder motorcycle engine?

Yeah...they can get pretty noisy, but they can also be amazingly quiet - it really depends on which muffler system you're going to use. "Lo-tone" mufflers are still available for many models (depending on the equipment manufacturer), or you can configure your own set up.

Do you know what brand and type of equipment it was mounted on originally? Nine out of ten times the manufacturer of the equipment the engine is mounted on specs out the muffler for it, NOT the engine mfgr. Some spec'd out nice, quiet mufflers, others went the cheap route with louder, lower quality mufflers.

Most engine manufacturers provide one or two generic muffler combinations for those (like yourself, for example) that are using engines on special projects.

With engine #'s, I can do some digging for you.

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Re: Big single cylinder motorcycle engine?

I can tell you that the boxer Briggs engines sound surprisingly like a radial aircraft engine when you uncork the exhaust, not that that's what you're looking for.
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If the noise depends pretty much on the muffler, then I'm not worried. I can put a Cadillac muffler on it, and run the pipe up ten feet high, concealed in a patio umbrella. I'm worried about clattering mechanical noise coming straight out from the moving parts in the engine. But I'll probably hear it run in a few days.

Sure appreciate your offer of help, Griff!

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Old 02-26-2010, 01:08 PM   #44
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I'm sorry Elliott, I misunderstood you on the "noise" issue, I thought you meant exhaust...

No, properly maintained and serviced, you won't hear the valve train or any other excessive engine noise. The only thing you may want to watch for is the heat shields and/or blower housing. If they're bent, or not properly fastened, they may squeak, squawk and carry on.
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Yes, I noticed some sheet metal cooling ducts, but I figure I can secure those from vibrating.

Prior maintenance is unknown. I'll just have to judge by what I hear and see when he fires it up for me. Blue smoke bad; black smoke can be fixed. Rod knock and valve clatter bad; exhaust noise can be fixed.

The fact that lawn mower racers are hoarding these, suggests that I can get my money back if I don't like it.
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Isn't this a lot of effort to impress a bunch of stoned people at a festival?
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Glad to see that " ".

It is indeed all about lots of . In addition to the Burning Man Art Festival, this vehicle will be used in the 4th of July Parade here in Clearlake, the Pear Festival parade in Kelseyville, and at least three Christmas parades in the county each year in the forseeable future.

But Burning Man is the main event, yes. A whole week, 45.000 people, and pretty much nothing that resembles everyday life. For me, it's the best vacation on Earth, and I get to apply my hobby interest of mechanical tinkering at the same time.

This includes Millicent. Millicent is now finally scheduled to be painted... at Burning Man. The group I'm camping with this year includes several artists who are champing at the bit. Among them is a commercial cartoonist, and a street graffiti vandal. This should be very .

Oh.... As for impressing a bunch of stoned people -- I have no such hopes. I've noticed several stoned people at Burning Man over the years, and they never seem to be receptive to being impressed by anything. This correspond with my experience screening out stoned people when I was hiring truck drivers.

And.... It is usually I who am impressed by the creations of other people at The Festival. The steam-engine driven Victorian house comes to mind. My Briggs & Stratton powered piano may get run over, impressing nobody!

So I arrive at the Pearly Gate, and St. Peter asks me: "How did you die, Son?"

I answer: "Well, I was driving a Baby Grand Piano across a vast dusty desert when a Victorian house ran over me."

St. Peter: "Sorry, you go to Hell."

Oh yes, we do have fun!
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I couldn't have said it better myself!
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Isn't this a lot of effort to impress a bunch of stoned people at a festival?
That is so funny I almost busted a nut laughing so hard.

I wasn't going to post for a while but I had to chime in here.

Remember though, nothing wrong with toked up non-communist hippy wannabes or toked up non communist urban professionals or non-self-centered judgmental mechanics iffen their job allows for such and their governmental agencies(fourth branch of government) don't necessarily disallow such behavior, having a good time.
VBus-people are real except subhuman canadian communist type (except timbuk types of course, 'cause timbuc is a canadian national treasure of the finest caliber ) troglodytes.
Hey, I don't care if someone wants to get baked...just that they probably wouldn't appreciate the craftsmanship in that altered state.
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Jarlaxle, that's never been a problem for me at Burning Man. Sure, you can always find somebody who is too drunk, or stoned, or sleep-deprived, or whatever to appreciate anything, but that's what vacations are for. In the course of that week, you'll find me silly drunk also.

But Burning Man is kind'a like a Makers Fair. I think you would be amazed at all the cool things people invent, build, bring, and then share. And very much appreciate.

Regretably, the mass media tends to sensationalize the "iffy" parts of BM, and seldom even mention all the Good Stuff.

As always, mind you, I must emphasise that Burning Man is definitely not for everyone.
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:36 PM   #51
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It sounds interesting, except mvfor two major obstacles:
1) It's 2500 miles from me.
2) My vacation time this year is already spoken for, since I'm Power Touring again!

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Re: Big single cylinder motorcycle engine?

Back on topic...I still want to see a 22RE or 22R in that piano. I might even have one laying around attached to a transmission for you, Elliot...just come get it.
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Back on topic...I still want to see a 22RE or 22R in that piano. I might even have one laying around attached to a transmission for you, Elliot...just come get it.
Hmmmm.... Four wheel drive tranny with low range?

Sure appreciate it, but Minnesota is kind'a far from California.

That said, I have friends in Madison, Wisconsin, and who knows what logistic opportunities might arise.
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it is a 2,100 mile one way journey for me, and i made it in a skoolie 4 years in a row.
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All kinds of gearheads on this board, no doubt, so I'll bounce this off'a ya:

Can you name a large single-cylinder ("thumper") air-cooled four-cycle motorcycle engine that is commonly available? The largest I know of for sure is the Yamaha street bike that was painted like a vintage Norton -- I think it was a 500 cc. But I have a pretty good hunch there are some more common dirt bikes at 500 cc, and maybe more.

This is still at the brainstorming stage, but I might be interested in such an engine if I can pick it up cheap at a local motorcycle wrecker. (Or if you have one laying around!) This would be for a Burning Man "Mutant Vehicle" project; motorizing a Grand Piano. I want a thumper for the "bass" sound of it.

Never mind any fancy thousand-dollar engines. The piano was free, and that's my general operating mode.

Yeah a Yamaha 1976-79ish TT or XT 500cc or they came in 550 or 600 to.
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Do those have electric start? I see that most ATVs and lawn tractors have electric start, so I might as well take advantage of that.
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it is a 2,100 mile one way journey for me, and i made it in a skoolie 4 years in a row.
Yeah, but you don't have the Power Tour eating your vacation time! EVERY gearhead should Long haul at least once!
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Still no decision on the powertrain, but we do have a name and visual concept for the motorized piano:



Not sure where the bird came from, but you probably understand "Wolfgang Amadeus Earnhardt".
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Yer ouutta yer mind, dude!

I think I'll stick to the Power Tour, where we only have stuff like 2500 mile road trips in an Ariel Atom, and street-legal carnival rtides.
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well i think the newer xt & tt 650cc might
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