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Old 02-28-2016, 08:00 PM   #31
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54-passengers is most likely an 8-window bus.

If it is, it most likely is 256" from the service door to the back bumper and about 120" from the back of the service door to the front bumper.

If it is a 7-window bus it will most likely be 224" from the service door to the back bumper and about 120" from the back of the service door to the front bumper.

Those are approximate numbers but should be within about 24".

School buses are limited to a total length of no more than 40' overall. Some motorcoaches and transit buses are longer than 40' but school buses can NOT be more than 40'.

Also, school buses are limited to a maximum width of 96". Most larger commercial buses, transit buses, and motorcoaches are now 102" wide.
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Old 02-29-2016, 06:13 AM   #32
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Thank you cowlitzcoach.
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Old 02-29-2016, 08:28 PM   #33
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lol. I am a counter also. Every pic online, every ad, I count the windows first, but only if it is an RE. I get excited if it has 14 windows...
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Old 03-02-2016, 05:29 AM   #34
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My problem is that I only have room for the turning radius of a 30 foot bus. Being new to shopping for a school bus, I don't know how to find out which ones are 30 feet long, but I gather that 8 windows or under are 30 feet long or under.
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Old 03-02-2016, 11:52 AM   #35
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Some of the Type 'D' FE buses have incredibly tight turning ability. Some of the front axles that are used have 50* or more cut angles. It can really scrub the rubber off of front tires if you take the corners very fast.

The reason why I mention that fact is I have driven several Type 'D' FE buses that will turn inside of a crew cab long box pickup. Some I have driven that have wheelbases longer than the total length of a Ford E-350 15-passenger van but turned just as tight as the van.

Of course those FE buses had huge rear overhangs that really swing and can hit stuff as they swing around a corner if you don't watch what you are doing.

Before you discount buses because they are too long I would try driving a few to see how much real estate they take to get turned around.

I will grant you that there were a lot of buses back in the day that required a whole corn field to get around a corner. The worst offenders were the Ford chassis Type 'C' buses with the narrow track light duty front axle.

But most buses built since the IHC S-series Schoolmaster chassis hit the market will turn a whole bunch tighter than you would expect from such a large vehicle.

Good luck and happy trails.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:00 PM   #36
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Hmmm... I'd love to have a full size bus...
I'm in MA, but I'll be moving to OR. Maybe my friend can measure the width of the street and the width of the driveway where I'll be living. Then I could take some traffic cones with me and see if the bus will do that. Thanks for the inspiration!
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Old 12-12-2016, 07:59 PM   #37
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Whats the distance from the floor to bottom of window?

The road goes ever on and on, down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the road has gone, and I must follow, if I can. J.R.R. Tolkien
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:21 AM   #38
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Whats the distance from the floor to bottom of window?
Somewhere around 3-ish feet. The top of the bottom rubrail indicates floor height, the middle rubrail indicates seat cushion height. The rails actually play a role, besides body stiffening, to give responders visual cues on the interior layout of the bus.
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Somewhere around 3-ish feet. The top of the bottom rubrail indicates floor height, the middle rubrail indicates seat cushion height. The rails actually play a role, besides body stiffening, to give responders visual cues on the interior layout of the bus.
This is golden information! ... and makes so much sense! Thank you
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Old 02-03-2017, 07:23 PM   #40
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