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03-09-2018, 07:48 PM
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So is it ok to assume that the side windows are 2 feet-ish wide? Redd wrote that the ones in his bus are 25.5 inches wide. Is that a standard in the bus industry or are all bus companies different?
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03-09-2018, 07:51 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
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Year: 1999
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Originally Posted by Suzzz
So is it ok to assume that the side windows are 2 feet-ish wide? Redd wrote that the ones in his bus are 25.5 inches wide. Is that a standard in the bus industry or are all bus companies different?
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The windows have spaces between them.
Generally, 2 1/2' per window gets you close.
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03-09-2018, 07:54 PM
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New Member
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Thanks, that's what I thought.
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03-09-2018, 07:54 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
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Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
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Engine: DTA360 / MT643
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bluebird used 2 widths of windows for some reason.. if you look at some of the birds they will have a couple of "long" windows.. not sure why they did that.. ive never seen a bus with all long windows... and come to think of it IO havent seen one with none.
-Christopher
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03-09-2018, 08:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Originally Posted by cadillackid
bluebird used 2 widths of windows for some reason.. if you look at some of the birds they will have a couple of "long" windows.. not sure why they did that.. ive never seen a bus with all long windows... and come to think of it IO havent seen one with none.
-Christopher
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Are the long window egress windows. If they put a chair lift it messes up the symmetry due to it's larger size, maybe windows to match. Just guessing.
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03-09-2018, 09:02 PM
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#26
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Looking at this I notice that not only all the windows behind the rear axle are longer, but the seat spacing changes also.
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03-09-2018, 09:20 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Location: Georgia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Are the long window egress windows. If they put a chair lift it messes up the symmetry due to it's larger size, maybe windows to match. Just guessing.
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In my case, no. I have the usual 24 1/2" windows on mine (the approximate glass size, as I measured for tinting the windows), but I also have one on each side roughly 30". Mine's a handy bus so I suspect it was to get the length and seat spacing to accommodate the chair lift and floor spacing for wheelchair riders.
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03-09-2018, 10:26 PM
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#28
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,850
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Are the long window egress windows. If they put a chair lift it messes up the symmetry due to it's larger size, maybe windows to match. Just guessing.
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they arent egress.. my egress windows are short ones.. .. my bus doesnt have a lift on either side..
wait maybe the egress windows are shorter than a regular wiondow so they use a long one next to it?
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09-26-2020, 03:02 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: California, Bay Area
Posts: 896
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
they arent egress.. my egress windows are short ones.. .. my bus doesnt have a lift on either side..
wait maybe the egress windows are shorter than a regular wiondow so they use a long one next to it?
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It does look like the egress window may be slightly smaller on your bus than the normal sized windows, did you ever end up measuring the width?
I know I'm bumping an old thread, but I'm searching for some specifics on bluebird windows. Both the normal and long widths.
I'm trying to estimate the length of a bus with 3 x long windows and 5 x regular.
(I read elsewhere: Blue Bird uses 28" and 35" which sounds a bit longer than I've seen referenced other places(24"-25.5"))
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09-26-2020, 04:48 AM
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Traveling
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Location: Virginia
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I assume nothing in this aspect of skoolies. I have seen window lengths anywhere from 24 to 36 inches, there doesn't seem to be any specific measurement in terms of spacing between the back of one seat to the back of the next. Also, in cases of wheelchair space in the mix, all bets are off. I've seen buses with 12 windows per side that were rated at 65-71, where others that looked identical were rated 81-90.
I will say that passenger capacity is generally rated at 3 per seat for full-size seats, the smaller ones at 2. So each row is usually 6 passenger, the smaller seats 4. If I had to voice any kind of 'formula' as to rows of seating versus window count, I would say 1.25-1.5 windows per row of seating, making a 10-window a 48, possibly 46 passenger, an 11-window could be a 44-52 passenger.
It all comes down to how the seats are arranged, how they are spaced, and whether there are any missing to accommodate wheelchairs for special needs students. Blue Bird is going to do things differently than Thomas, IC (formerly AmTran) or any others. Which is why I say there really is no rhyme or reason unless you know a particular manufacturer's seat spacing, and even then it's a crap shoot if there's a wheelchair lift.
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