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Old 01-07-2009, 09:33 PM   #11
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i cannot believe what I am reading here RUBBER LINE on HYDRAULIC BRAKE LINES? and claiming you have done this and it worked?!! no
It looks like you are saying you don't think it would work in an emergency but have no idea if it really would work or not based on you're opinion. Whatever you think is fine with me. I will stick with what I have seen work and I will continue to carry a small kit of parts for just such an emergency repair.
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:37 PM   #12
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For hydraulic brakes I will plug the line at the nearest available joint rather than use a compression fitting.
Yeah, isolating a brake or an axle is another emergency repair that will get you off the side of the highway and to somewhere that proper repairs can be made. Been there and done that to.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:10 PM   #13
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i cannot believe what I am reading here RUBBER LINE on HYDRAULIC BRAKE LINES? and claiming you have done this and it worked?!! no, for air brakes ok I'll believe that, but the best rubber hose anyone is going to be carrying is not going to be rated any higher than 150 psi and the clamps will not hold any more than that, hydraulic brake systems run more than 3,000 psi the only emergency fix is to completely block the line and maintain pressure to the rest of your system and that should be done only long enough to get to help, I've seen people attempt copper line as a "temp" fix it split the entire length of the line the first application after the vehicle was started, proper parts or no parts when it comes to hydraulic brakes
You and me both !!! I cannot believe this.

I'm gettin a better understanding why skoolies are hard to find insurance for.

I'm starting to understand the people who think annual inspections should be mandatory

I'm gettin scared to go outside

I don't like it at all...A skoolie is a great DIY project that can command the respect and admiration of others. but DIY is not a license to do things half assed or stupid. DIY is great BUT the implication is that you DIY PROPERLY. The actual cost of doing it right is no more than it costs to do it wrong, but the rewards of doing it right are pride in a job well done , and a reasonable expectation of safety for all . If you want to save the money by doing it yourself , buy the tool and use it. A roll of steel tube and a few connectors will fit in your kit too.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:22 PM   #14
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It looks like you are saying you don't think it would work in an emergency but have no idea if it really would work or not based on you're opinion. Whatever you think is fine with me. I will stick with what I have seen work and I will continue to carry a small kit of parts for just such an emergency repair.
C'mon here you're driving a 20k lb bus !!!!!!!!
If your brakes don't work, get off the road and fix it right. Anyone driving any vehicle this size has a responsibility to do so safely. We all know what can happen if a bus hits a car, THEY DON"T DESERVE TO PAY THAT PRICE. Do it right or pay someone to do it right , you owe it to the rest of us on the road. Rubber hose repairs on hydraulic brake lines is not fixing it right in any way shape or form.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:40 PM   #15
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If your breaks don't work, get off the road and fix it right. Anyone driving any vehicle this size has a responsibility to do so safely. We all know what can happen if a bus hits a car, THEY DON"T DESERVE TO PAY THAT PRICE. Do it right or pay someone to do it right , you owe it to the rest of us on the road. Rubber hose repairs on hydraulic brake lines is not fixing it right in any way shape or form.
I haven't seen anyone in the thread claim it was the correct repair except for maybe a fuel line. It is an effective (and proven) temporary repair that can get you off of the side of the road, out of the woods or to somewhere the repair can be done properly. And I don't owe anyone anything except Chrysler-Daimler and two mortgages.
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If your breaks don't work, get off the road and fix it right. Anyone driving any vehicle this size has a responsibility to do so safely. We all know what can happen if a bus hits a car, THEY DON"T DESERVE TO PAY THAT PRICE. Do it right or pay someone to do it right , you owe it to the rest of us on the road. Rubber hose repairs on hydraulic brake lines is not fixing it right in any way shape or form.
I haven't seen anyone in the thread claim it was the correct repair except for maybe a fuel line. It is an effective (and proven) temporary repair that can get you off of the side of the road, out of the woods or to somewhere the repair can be done properly. And I don't owe anyone anything except Chrysler-Daimler and two mortgages.

bull#### it will not survive one brake application, you may just as well let the proportioning valve to shut off the leaking end of the bus and nurse it off the road, which is the only way you ever got a rubber line to stay on an hydraulic brake repair, the failsafes had already shut off pressure to that end and your rubber line did absolutely nothing
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Whatever you think is fine with me. I will go with what I know.
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im all about safety 3rd, and even i am not crazy enough to try to use a rubber hose to fix a high pressure brake line, especially on a 20K pound bus! That is stupid and just plain dangerous.

most pressure rated items have a burst strength 3x their rated pressure. So that rubber fuel line in your toolbox rated for 100 psi will probably hold up to about 300 psi. No way will it stand up to 3000 pounds per square inch. And hose clamps? come on? There is no way they can safely withstand that sort of pressure. Even specially made high pressure fuel injection hose clamps are rated for pressures 30 times less than that of the pressure inside the brake lines.

DON'T DO IT!
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:49 PM   #19
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That is stupid and just plain dangerous.

DON'T DO IT!
I bet you will be the first one to try it the next time the need arises and you have to get back to civilization to get the parts to do it right. It works as a temporary solution.
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How about posing it a different way. What advantage does fixing it with hose have over capping the line? I know it's not cost because 4 clamps and a length of hose is going to cost as much as a double flare plug. Is it the tools? It takes a wrench to tighten clamps or to tighten a nut in. Is is the amount of time it takes? Possibly. I've had some lines that were a serious pain to break apart, but I've also had a heck of a time shimmying a hose on over parts before. I guess I just fail to see the advantage to the hose versus blocking off the line. I can't imagine how spongy that pedal is with soft hose on it. I upgraded from factory rubber lines to DOT stainless braided lines on my wheeling rig and couldn't believe the difference that made, let alone how soft a pedal must be with unreinforced rubber line.
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