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05-09-2018, 06:22 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Does anyone have one those huge busses?
I'm looking for anyone that has one of those 80 or 90 some passenger jobs
I've seen them for sale in nv that say they are 92 I think
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05-09-2018, 07:40 PM
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#2
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
I'm looking for anyone that has one of those 80 or 90 some passenger jobs
I've seen them for sale in nv that say they are 92 I think
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Number of passengers is only a rough guide.
All school buses have a maximum legal length of 45'.
Almost all top out at 40', with a few reaching 45' but they have tandem rear axles.
My 40' was, for example, limited to 46 passengers, but it remains a Thomas 40' Pusher.
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05-09-2018, 08:23 PM
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#3
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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Google can find lots of 77- and 84- passenger schoolies.
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05-09-2018, 08:28 PM
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#4
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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How much room do you need?
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05-09-2018, 08:31 PM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
I'm looking for anyone that has one of those 80 or 90 some passenger jobs
I've seen them for sale in nv that say they are 92 I think
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I've had a couple 40 footers. Passenger counts vary. Last one was a 78 passenger.
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05-09-2018, 08:34 PM
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#6
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 233
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84lug
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My 84lug puller has 39' of useable space behind the driver seat.
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05-09-2018, 09:25 PM
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#7
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
How much room do you need?
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I don't know I need that much room just kinda asking to see if people are driving some of the real big busses.
Not sure if the extra few feet would matter in driving and fuel cost
There are fewer of them so they seem to go for more money. Idk if the extra cost is worth the extra few feet of living space
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05-09-2018, 09:28 PM
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#8
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I've had a couple 40 footers. Passenger counts vary. Last one was a 78 passenger.
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Seems to be the most common and cheaper. Also about what I'm looking for.
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05-09-2018, 09:32 PM
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#9
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 233
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84lug
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
Seems to be the most common and cheaper. Also about what I'm looking for.
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one mine in a school fleet auction $3200 runs perfect.
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05-09-2018, 09:33 PM
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#10
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 233
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84lug
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
I don't know I need that much room just kinda asking to see if people are driving some of the real big busses.
Not sure if the extra few feet would matter in driving and fuel cost
There are fewer of them so they seem to go for more money. Idk if the extra cost is worth the extra few feet of living space
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getting about 12 miles per gallon in a dt466 43' FE
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05-09-2018, 09:39 PM
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#11
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Sounds like an awesome deal
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05-10-2018, 08:43 AM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,660
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
I don't know I need that much room just kinda asking to see if people are driving some of the real big busses.
Not sure if the extra few feet would matter in driving and fuel cost
There are fewer of them so they seem to go for more money. Idk if the extra cost is worth the extra few feet of living space
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Fuel cost is really unaffected. You're pushing the same hole through the air, it really doesn't matter how much bus follows it.
As far as driving goes, most of your longer busses are snub nosed/ transit style which puts them on a pretty short wheel base compared to a conventional arrangement. That makes them pretty mobile around corners and such. You just have to pay attention to back end swinging around in a turn if you're not used to it.
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05-10-2018, 11:32 AM
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#13
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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I drove a fairly large flatbed around in Oakland and San Francisco doing deliveries, I have found if you can get a truck through China Town you can probably drive anywhere
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05-10-2018, 11:40 AM
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#14
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Damascus, OR
Posts: 681
Year: 2004
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e w/ 2000 Allison Trans
Rated Cap: 35
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Is this big enough?
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05-10-2018, 12:01 PM
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#15
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovobay
Is this big enough?
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Lol, I'm pretty sure I couldn't afford the fuel cost on that bad boy even if it was given to me
Btw I wasn't really looking at anything over 35-40ft but if response from owner is good on the real big boys and I find a steal on one I might as well throw a workshop on the extra footage
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05-27-2018, 02:12 AM
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#16
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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School buses by law can NOT be more than 96" wide or longer than 40' long.
Motorcoaches and transit buses can be up to 102" wide and up to 45' long.
The basic WA state school bus spe'c RE bus is a 84 passenger body seated for 78--it gives maximum knee spacing. I have seen some that were optioned in the same body with two more rows of seats for a total of 90 pax. I have heard of, but not seen any, BB AA FE buses that had 17-rows of seats. Those probably had virtually no knee spacing. Back in the day Crown and Gillig made a few that had 16-rows of seats for a total of 97 pax (the rear divan seat held seven across the back with someone sitting in the middle of the aisle seating position.
Regardless, whether the bus was seated with 13 rows or 17 rows the exterior and interior dimensions did not change. The were all a maximum of 40' long.
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05-27-2018, 05:39 AM
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#17
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach
School buses by law can NOT be more than 96" wide or longer than 40' long.
Motorcoaches and transit buses can be up to 102" wide and up to 45' long.
The basic WA state school bus spe'c RE bus is a 84 passenger body seated for 78--it gives maximum knee spacing. I have seen some that were optioned in the same body with two more rows of seats for a total of 90 pax. I have heard of, but not seen any, BB AA FE buses that had 17-rows of seats. Those probably had virtually no knee spacing. Back in the day Crown and Gillig made a few that had 16-rows of seats for a total of 97 pax (the rear divan seat held seven across the back with someone sitting in the middle of the aisle seating position.
Regardless, whether the bus was seated with 13 rows or 17 rows the exterior and interior dimensions did not change. The were all a maximum of 40' long.
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A newer member has sworn his school bus is 43" long. lol
It has to be true, right??
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05-27-2018, 07:28 AM
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#18
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Plymouth MA
Posts: 197
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatthefak
Lol, I'm pretty sure I couldn't afford the fuel cost on that bad boy even if it was given to me
Btw I wasn't really looking at anything over 35-40ft but if response from owner is good on the real big boys and I find a steal on one I might as well throw a workshop on the extra footage
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One of my ambitions is one of those long buses, with the last 8 feet or so as a workshop...the sides would tip down as flooring, and with canvas would make for an enclosed 8x20 work area.....more if I used folding outriggers.
This would also permit feeding larger timbers through the work area for more comfort/being out of the weather.
The basement would hold a lot of other tools used on-site for timber framing etc.
I drool over the idea of a Crown Super Coach....dual rear axles, updated (electric) radiator fans, updated air brakes (roller, not wedge types), air seat....
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The tool storage is nice, but where do I put the bed?
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05-27-2018, 07:32 AM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,762
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyInTN
getting about 12 miles per gallon in a dt466 43' FE
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I've never heard of an IC bus longer than 40'.
Post us up some pics of this unicorn.
At what speeds are you getting 12mpg in this 43 footer?
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05-27-2018, 10:28 AM
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#20
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New Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: New York
Posts: 6
Year: 1973
Coachwork: International?
Chassis: Carpenter?
Engine: Deisel International?
Rated Cap: 40ft with 4ft Extension
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Maybe they added extra footage [/IMG]
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