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Old 08-17-2015, 08:37 AM   #1
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Earth day and consumption

This thread is not meant to be political. It is just memories and thoughts coming to surface. Remember Arbor Day, Earth Day, etc.? Well now there is Ecological Debt Day, or Earth Overshoot Day. Its the day that comes when we use more resources than the earth can renew in one year. It came and went August 13.
It got me to thinking. My take on buying and moving into a bus may be a good thing. A lot of what we (wife and I) are using is recycled or reclaimed. What we plan to use for energy and what we produce for waste (from fuel consumption to produce the energy used) will be less (smaller footprint).
Maybe we are having an affect on others by showing that it is possible to live on less. Will we turn around the me generation of consumers who are used to disposable goods? I doubt it but maybe a few people will stop and think.
Or maybe I just took the wrong meds this morning.
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Old 08-17-2015, 08:55 AM   #2
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Or maybe I just took the wrong meds this morning.
Or not enough coffee?

Think about it also this way: by rescuing a bus, you're also lessening the energy/waste footprint that it costs to recycle the bus. The energy requirement to cut it up, compact it, transport, and melt it back down into its component metals. You're also lessening the chances of fluid leaks getting into the groundwater while it's sitting at the scrapyard waiting to get cut up. And, since they're not in-service, hauling kids around, but used infrequently, the carbon footprint of the bus itself is also reduced.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:46 AM   #3
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"Its the day that comes when we use more resources than the earth can renew in one year."

The above statement is not accurate, misstating facts to lead the reader down a certain path is in itself a form of political discussion.
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Old 08-17-2015, 10:14 AM   #4
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"Its the day that comes when we use more resources than the earth can renew in one year."

The above statement is not accurate, misstating facts to lead the reader down a certain path is in itself a form of political discussion.
Both of your comments can be safely ignored since neither have citations from credible sources.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:30 AM   #5
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Earth Overshoot Day 2015: What Happens When We Use More Than The Planet Can Renew?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_footprint - Read "implications at the bottom of the page.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...ventor_of_the/ - From the one who created the measure. Read it before commenting.

Earth overshoots its mark | News | Environment | M&G

Comments can always be ignored. That is a choice we make when we climb on the internet. Nowhere does it say that every post must include citings from "credible" sources whatever that is. Every time I read something here, I put as much weight on it as anything else. My comment above in the first post, "This thread is not meant to be political. It is just memories and thoughts coming to surface." meant that you are not expected to take it as preachings and certainly not throw stones.
I am happy someone here does not believe my comment was accurate. Maybe it wasn't but it is what is being posted in several places and so I included links. Some don't believe that every roof should be raised (or whatever). It doesn't mean that we should flag the thread or tell others to ignore the comment because no "citations from credible sources" are included. I pass the pills and coffee. Sorry.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:40 AM   #6
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Earth Day- This unfortunately conjures images in my head of long lines of drunk kids waiting to buy another ten dollar beer or five dollar water while the latest pop drivel drones along in the background.
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Comments can always be ignored. That is a choice we make when we climb on the internet. Nowhere does it say that every post must include citings from "credible" sources whatever that is.
When we're talking about electrical, mechanical, fuel, etc we can easily weigh opinions based on our own experiences and the merits of the person offering the opinion as well as common sense.

When we're talking about science (which often has a political spin) nobody should take any one individual's opinion blindly. Be convincing. This means having credible people backing you; as in people who study the field and can be considered "professionals". Science is big. Individually we are small. For the majority of the scientific field you cannot rely on personal opinion. None of us have lived long enough to anecdotally know what's going on in this universe.
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Interesting

I still enjoyed my 350Hp on my 45 mile drive to work today
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:14 PM   #9
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And I went and dug out seven cherry tree's, stump and all, around 8 inches in diameter, that were standing dead to build a sweet hardwood table from.

I'm waiting to post the pics till winter like I always do.

Happy earth day all you planet parasites.

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Old 08-17-2015, 01:56 PM   #10
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I also recycled a bunch of old steel drums this weekend...still not done with project



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why would I be welding drums together and filling with concrete



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still need to paint and install swinging bridge and teeter totter

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