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08-17-2015, 07:37 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Earth day and consumption
This thread is not meant to be political. It is just memories and thoughts coming to surface. Remember Arbor Day, Earth Day, etc.? Well now there is Ecological Debt Day, or Earth Overshoot Day. Its the day that comes when we use more resources than the earth can renew in one year. It came and went August 13.
It got me to thinking. My take on buying and moving into a bus may be a good thing. A lot of what we (wife and I) are using is recycled or reclaimed. What we plan to use for energy and what we produce for waste (from fuel consumption to produce the energy used) will be less (smaller footprint).
Maybe we are having an affect on others by showing that it is possible to live on less. Will we turn around the me generation of consumers who are used to disposable goods? I doubt it but maybe a few people will stop and think.
Or maybe I just took the wrong meds this morning.
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08-17-2015, 07:55 AM
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Bus Crazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HolyBus
Or maybe I just took the wrong meds this morning.
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Or not enough coffee?
Think about it also this way: by rescuing a bus, you're also lessening the energy/waste footprint that it costs to recycle the bus. The energy requirement to cut it up, compact it, transport, and melt it back down into its component metals. You're also lessening the chances of fluid leaks getting into the groundwater while it's sitting at the scrapyard waiting to get cut up. And, since they're not in-service, hauling kids around, but used infrequently, the carbon footprint of the bus itself is also reduced.
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08-17-2015, 08:46 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2014
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"Its the day that comes when we use more resources than the earth can renew in one year."
The above statement is not accurate, misstating facts to lead the reader down a certain path is in itself a form of political discussion.
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my bus thread, https://www.skoolie.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8860&highlight=bubb
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08-17-2015, 09:14 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubb, the real one
"Its the day that comes when we use more resources than the earth can renew in one year."
The above statement is not accurate, misstating facts to lead the reader down a certain path is in itself a form of political discussion.
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Both of your comments can be safely ignored since neither have citations from credible sources.
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08-17-2015, 10:30 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Earth Overshoot Day 2015: What Happens When We Use More Than The Planet Can Renew?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_footprint - Read "implications at the bottom of the page.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...ventor_of_the/ - From the one who created the measure. Read it before commenting.
Earth overshoots its mark | News | Environment | M&G
Comments can always be ignored. That is a choice we make when we climb on the internet. Nowhere does it say that every post must include citings from "credible" sources whatever that is. Every time I read something here, I put as much weight on it as anything else. My comment above in the first post, "This thread is not meant to be political. It is just memories and thoughts coming to surface." meant that you are not expected to take it as preachings and certainly not throw stones.
I am happy someone here does not believe my comment was accurate. Maybe it wasn't but it is what is being posted in several places and so I included links. Some don't believe that every roof should be raised (or whatever). It doesn't mean that we should flag the thread or tell others to ignore the comment because no "citations from credible sources" are included. I pass the pills and coffee. Sorry.
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08-17-2015, 10:40 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
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Earth Day- This unfortunately conjures images in my head of long lines of drunk kids waiting to buy another ten dollar beer or five dollar water while the latest pop drivel drones along in the background.
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08-17-2015, 11:20 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HolyBus
Comments can always be ignored. That is a choice we make when we climb on the internet. Nowhere does it say that every post must include citings from "credible" sources whatever that is.
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When we're talking about electrical, mechanical, fuel, etc we can easily weigh opinions based on our own experiences and the merits of the person offering the opinion as well as common sense.
When we're talking about science (which often has a political spin) nobody should take any one individual's opinion blindly. Be convincing. This means having credible people backing you; as in people who study the field and can be considered "professionals". Science is big. Individually we are small. For the majority of the scientific field you cannot rely on personal opinion. None of us have lived long enough to anecdotally know what's going on in this universe.
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08-17-2015, 11:42 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
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Interesting
I still enjoyed my 350Hp on my 45 mile drive to work today
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08-17-2015, 12:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
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And I went and dug out seven cherry tree's, stump and all, around 8 inches in diameter, that were standing dead to build a sweet hardwood table from.
I'm waiting to post the pics till winter like I always do.
Happy earth day all you planet parasites.
Nat
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"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."
Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
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08-17-2015, 12:56 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
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I also recycled a bunch of old steel drums this weekend...still not done with project
a little closer
why would I be welding drums together and filling with concrete
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still need to paint and install swinging bridge and teeter totter
I will post a build thread for backyard play ground later if folks want
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Our build La Tortuga
Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
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08-17-2015, 01:04 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 546
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Vaseline and goats?
Not going there..................
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Don and Mary
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08-17-2015, 01:07 PM
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Bus Nut
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That is really kewl!! I used to take care of the goats at a petting farm in the disney campground many years ago before it burned down. Those goats used to jump the fence and roam the grounds all the time. Fun days spent rounding them up. Mmm curried goat - best I ever had was in Jamaica back in 74.
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08-17-2015, 01:09 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dond
Vaseline and goats?
Not going there..................
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Aindreas had "cocci" and I had to monitor temps...they are called kids for a reason, just glad we didn't get bottle babies... yet...
you can see his running nose and he had a temp of 103.8
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Our build La Tortuga
Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
George S. Patton
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08-17-2015, 01:25 PM
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Bus Geek
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Always game for more pics.
Good on you for building them a play ground.
Nat
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"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."
Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
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08-17-2015, 01:45 PM
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Moderator
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08-17-2015, 01:46 PM
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Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nat_ster
Always game for more pics.
Good on you for building them a play ground.
Nat
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Yeah, definitely better than the hood of your car.
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08-17-2015, 11:59 PM
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Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bansil
I also recycled a bunch of old steel drums this weekend...still not done with project
a little closer
why would I be welding drums together and filling with concrete
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still need to paint and install swinging bridge and teeter totter
I will post a build thread for backyard play ground later if folks want
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Are those Tennessee Fainting Goats?
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08-18-2015, 03:40 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
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No fainting goats, just 2 pygmy and a Nubian/Nigerian mix (supposedly)
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Our build La Tortuga
Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
George S. Patton
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08-18-2015, 06:00 AM
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Bus Crazy
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I'm hiding this thread from my wife. She goes over furry bodies. Cats, dogs, goats, you name it, if it has a furry body she wants to spoil it......
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08-18-2015, 06:05 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 100
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For those feeling concerned about earth's overshoot (more accurately OUR overshoot) i strongly suggestions this book:
Limits to growth : the 30 years update.
http://www.amazon.ca/Limits-Growth-T.../dp/193149858X
It the second book that scholars from MIT published with estimated limits on or exponential growth as a race on earth.
It's a bit dry but they make a decent (the best imo) job of explaining why it can't go on like this for very long...
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