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Old 01-20-2007, 11:37 PM   #1
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Hey guys, been on the site and learnin about skoolies. Been looking for a skoolie to convert to a racing rig for 92 event days this summer. Got my heart set on a 1990-93 tc 2000, 40ft, with mt643, hiway gearing, air brakes, 5.9 cummings, and handi lift in rear. Haven't heard of any with manuel tranny, but would love one.

Anyone have any advice or any leads on where I could find one or perhaps any problems with what I'm looking for? Just out of college with some money but more time really to work on the bus for whatever it needs, I'm a professional motorccycle racinf mechanic and have little experience with large trucks but and mechanicaly inclined.

Would love any advice in my search and helpful hints. Thanks!

P.S. Anyone who races bikes on the east coast let me know, hopefully I can get the bus by Daytona.
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:08 AM   #2
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I bought mine from First Student. According to their web site, they have one TC2000
for sale in Colorado, but it's only a 72-seater.
http://www.firststudentinc.com/defau...search_results

Here's their main Used Bus site. Look at one state at the time by selecting a state in "location"
down at the bottom, then "submit".

http://www.firststudentinc.com/default. ... s&S=search

There may have been an 84 pax TC2000 in McMinnville, Oregon, listed as a 78 pax.
You'd need to call and have them count seats for you. 14 rows = 84 kids.
The Scappose 84 pax bus is actually in McMinnville also. I didn't see any lifts, but these
buses are free of rust.

One quick way to (probably) identify an MT643 from an AT545: The 643 has a temperature
sending unit on the side of the pan on the left side.
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Old 01-21-2007, 10:22 AM   #3
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I was going to recommend the TC2000 in Colorado as well! It is located in Winter park which is only an hour or so away from Breckenridge! The price on the bus was $2500. Originally, they had three listed. I called about them on Friday and the lady said that they had sold two of them. One of the three she said, was not running well. She was going to call and get more info about the bus and call me back but she never did. I like the TC2000's as well. These had the 5.9L motors in them too,but no info on the tranny.
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Old 01-21-2007, 11:06 AM   #4
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When you are looking at 15 year old motor vehicles with 200.000 miles on them, you
are always going to find that they all have... personalities. There were/are
several good candidates in McMinnville, Oregon. The mechanic seemed open about them:
On 728517 the head gaskets are weeping a little, so they will have to be redone before too long.
728518 is sound except it was used on a mountenous route so the engine was run hard.
And so forth.
I have found that school bus employees are universally friendly and helpful.
The web site list is not necessarily up to date. You would call McMinnville, tell them a
friend of yours (me) bought old # T-85, and ask which ones they have left - and about
length of each. The 84 pax that may be mislabeled as a 78 may be the one with the
seats in different colors - could be that 728518. I think I made a mistake not buying that
one, but I wasn't sure about the length. Then you make the trip to inspect them.
The actual transaction is done with the lady in Texas or somewhere.
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:19 PM   #5
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Do you think it's posible to get what I'm looking for that I can drive back to Colorado with $2500?
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:39 PM   #6
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No, their prices are rather firm. I got mine down from 6000 to 5500.
That 728518 is listed at 5500, so perhaps you can get it for 5000.
I started by offering 2000 and received a rather stern reply!
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Finding a TC2000 or any other class D bus for $2500 or less is going to be a tall order. If you do find one for $2500, I'd be mighty careful. Just small things like a coolant flush, oil change, tranny service, new tires (steers atleast), etc will all add up to make up the difference between a $2500 bus and a $5000 bus, but you're going to be stuck putting all the time into it as well.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:02 PM   #8
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http://ks-bus.com/catalog/default.asp?cid=18 has some, but they run 4,900 and are pretty close (sorta) to us CO guys
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:29 PM   #9
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See I got the time, way more time than money. I'm a professinal motorcycle racing mechanic but have never worked on big deisels. Confident to takle anything I need too within reason. I'm just worried about transmissin problems, never really trusted automatics, always owned manuals. I'm 25 and this will be my first big vehicle, really excited though and really appreciate all or the help.

Checkin out this bus tommorow, mileage seems a little steep.

Year Chassis Mileage Price Engine Trans Body Style Fuel Brakes

1989 TC2 226171 $2500 5.9 A BB D A
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Well....you aren't going to find a TC2000 with a manual tranny. You probably aren't going to find any contemporary class D bus with a manual tranny, actually. The one exception might be if you found an old Crown or Gillig with a manual, but those are kind of a west coast bus and demand a premium.

There are a few available close to your price range right in town here at United Truck Body. This is where I bought my bus at and they are good guys to deal with. I see they have several Ford-Thomas Class C buses with a 5.9, air brakes, and air ride....

http://www.unitedtruckbody.com
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