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Old 04-14-2008, 08:27 PM   #1
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Guardian Generator -vs.-2 honda eu2000 good deal or not?

Does anyone know anything about this generator? Here's the link: http://www.norwall.com/product_info.php ... ucts_id=63
I was planning on buying 2 Honda eu2000 w/parallel kit with having the portability of them(approx $2200.) or buying this one and saving 600+ and being able to mount it under the bus, use it while I drive and have a remote electronic start with meter? Do I need a seperate fuel tank for the guardian or does it have a built in tank? I do not know anything about generators nor am I afraid to admit it. Is guardian a low end chinese rip off of Onan or are they somewhat respectable and worthwhile? Any help my friends would be GREATLY apprieciated. I don't want to blow $2000 and be sorry later....Thanks
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:03 PM   #2
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Re: Guardian Generator -vs.-2 honda eu2000 good deal or not?

the big differences are:

noise...the guardian @ half load is twice as loud as the honda at full load. (an increase of 10 decimals is considered to be twice as loud. so 70dB is twice as loud at 60dB)

60 db is considered to be "normal conversation" while a vacuum cleaner @ a distance 10 feet is considered "twice as loud" as normal conversation.

at no load the guardian consumes 4 times more fuel per hour than a single honda eu2000 does at 1/4 load (400 watts)

after that, both geni's seem pretty similiar according to their rated fuel consumption numbers....

at 1800 watts the guardian will run 3 hours on one gallon, while a single honda will run 3.8 hours. The guardian seems like a pretty fuel efficient generator indeed to come anywhere near what the honda does....the guardian is impressive in that regard....

at 3600 watts, the guardian will run 108 minutes on a single gallon while the pair of honda's will run for 114 minutes....that's pretty much no difference at all.....the guardian once again seems very impressive...assuming it's rated numbers turn out to be actual real world numbers.

i've used a honda for stretches longer than 10 days in a row, in the desert, running a small jacuzzi pump non-stop, plus freezer, lights, chargers, fan, microwave etc and average a litter better than 15 hours per gallon.

it's a toss up.........i'm a die hard honda fan though.

read any reviews on the guardian? i'm curious how consumers like them
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:56 AM   #3
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Re: Guardian Generator -vs.-2 Honda eu2000 good deal or not?

Thanks a lot Jimmy and Lapeer. I was already to buy the two Hondas, but I liked the idea of the remote electric start. I really like that I could take only one Honda when I'm not using the A/C and I don't have to have a spare gas tank. After reading the manual to the Guardian, I'm leaning toward the Hondas for convenience. I have a 13,500 btu A/C unit and I'm hoping the two Hondas will run it with a little juice left over. Lapeer, What size Honda did you(or do you)have? Did you have an extra fuel tank attached? I saw one site had a 6 gal. tank that had a hose through the gas cap of the Honda. Just wondering what other peoples set ups were... Thanks
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:26 AM   #4
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Re: Guardian Generator -vs.-2 honda eu2000 good deal or not?

the 6 gallon tank with hose through gas cap idea sounds pretty good to me. I always used the stock tank which is fine for a nite out at a party.....but when i wanted continuous power for days at a time the 1 gallon capacity was a bit of a drag, especially since i like to keep the geni on top of the bus. I have to climb up there twice a day..... i just never got around to building the aux tank, but i should have!



i never tried running an a/c unit. I did however use my honda eu2000 to run my wire feed welder. I had to turn the welder down to it's lowest heat setting, and turn off the eco throttle on the geni.

and like someone stated in a previous post....mayberry's.com is the place to buy the honda geni's. I purchased two of them for $857 each with no tax and no shipping.....and they arrived FAST!!!

i have no affiliation with mayberry's or honda...except i'm super happy with the items i've purchased from them

i eventually ruined one honda due to the desert environment. in retrospect i should not have left the geni on the desert floor....too much dust! I sold the other one on ebay because i didn't have a job for 7 months and i needed the money.....here is a video i made of the geni for the ebay ad.... i sold it for $800 if i remember right....after having it for a year and using it for a week or so in the desert.

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Old 04-15-2008, 06:50 PM   #5
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Re: Guardian Generator -vs.-2 honda eu2000 good deal or not?

As much as I wanted the Honda's I went with the Guardian 5500 watt. It was $600 less then 2 Hondas plus the parallel kit. Damn thing weighs 300lbs. I welded a slide frame and mounted it under the bus. I imagine the Hondas are better quality, but although I haven't used mine yet it seems very well put together and came with a very informative package and dvd as well as remote start. I can't wait to put it to the test and will post my observations (for what they're worth) when the time comes.
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:01 PM   #6
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REPROBATE!!! First of all....YOUR BUS IS SICK!!!(IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY!!) I've looked at your gallery and was going crazy with all that cool wood, slide out, and cool ceiling. I need my wife to hang out with yours and learn a few trades. I can't wait to see the finished product. Your bus makes me want to tear mine apart and start again...Really. Do you have a seperate gas tank, or is your gennie diesel and you tapped into your tank? I'm still on the fence about the whole thing...
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:30 AM   #7
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The generator has to have a separate tank. I'm going to get a 12 gal. fuel tank like the ones used for outboard motors. Depending on your installation location with the Guardian you will have to run cables to your battery bank or just get a separate battery for starting purposes. And thanks, Odyssess for thr nice comments. Hopefully we will finish soon.
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I'm looking forward to your reports on the Guardian, but so far I swear by the Hondas -- for the low noise and proven reliability. The Honda EU 3000 has a much larger tank than the 1000 and 2000, with a gauge, has electric start, weighs around 140 pounds with good lifting handles, costs around $1.700, and is the quietest generator on Earth. Believe me, generator noise can be a serious problem.

For good info on external tanks for the EU 1000 and 2000 (not sure about the 3000), go to the Burning Man web site forum and look for a poster named Captain Goddammit. (Sorry) I think he also says that the EU1000, the EU2000 and the EU3000 can all be connected together with simple homemade cords, with no ill effects. You just need to pay attention to how you start them, so they synchronize correctly. And not electrocute yourself with the homemade cords.
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Re: Guardian Generator -vs.-2 honda eu2000 good deal or not?

reprobate, you are somewhere in the southwest, aren't ya?

seems to me that a nice solar setup would be very helpful and possibly even pay for itself fairly quickly with gas prices being what they are. might as well put all that sunshine to work.
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Re: Guardian Generator -vs.-2 honda eu2000 good deal or not?

After alot of trying to find a place to mount a gennie under the my Shortbus, there really wasn't a spot for it. I ended up buying the 2 Honda Eu2000 with the 30amp parallel kit. I can't believe how quiet it is! I really didn't expect them to be as quiet as everyone said at full load. I like the portability and flexability of just bringing one when I don't need the extra power for the A/C. I found myself using it around the yard a couple of times. I built a cool aux. gas tank with a fuel filter and a T that feeds both generators. I'm building the rear deck and roof rack now so I can house them on the back and maybe the roof. I'm just designing a way to keep them safe from sticky fingers. I also used some 1" conduit and fashioned an upward exhaust pipe to send fumes over the bus. So far...very happy.
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