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Old 11-23-2016, 07:50 AM   #21
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Im not planning on riding out a blizzard or visiting ND in January. I just need something to knock the chill off of a cool SW dezert morning or morning in the mountains. Furnaces draw to much battery power for boondocking.

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Old 11-23-2016, 08:19 AM   #22
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I picked up a Mr. Heater Big Buddy for 138.00 as a backup propane heater. It says to use it outside only so it will be used during the conversion and if I have to do maintenance in the cold. Could not pass up the deal regular cost up here is 250.00
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Old 11-23-2016, 11:11 AM   #23
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It says to use it outside only
Heh THAT makes sense..... label a heater "Outside use only".... like anyone is gonna heed that.
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Old 11-23-2016, 01:21 PM   #24
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I wonder if one of these "heat powered fans" would do any good sitting on top of that heater you are thinking about?
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:20 PM   #25
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Those heat powered fans help to circulate the hot air but don't expect it to push high volumes of air.

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Old 11-24-2016, 11:22 PM   #26
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i know you said no wood burning but here is a cool stove if you got an extra $4k sitting around.

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Old 11-25-2016, 06:58 AM   #27
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...here is a cool stove if you got an extra $4k sitting around...
Ten dollar horse and a twenty dollar saddle?
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:03 AM   #28
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Old 11-25-2016, 10:52 AM   #29
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Those heat powered fans help to circulate the hot air but don't expect it to push high volumes of air.

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Of course they are not going to push big air.
But if they at least push the warmer air away, the cooler air will fill the void.

Don't know if they would work sitting on a propane heater.
They might be too efficient to get enough heat to make the fan run.
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Old 11-25-2016, 05:32 PM   #30
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I always like "five dollar whore in a ten dollar dress"
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Old 11-25-2016, 06:59 PM   #32
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i know you said no wood burning but here is a cool stove if you got an extra $4k sitting around.

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That sure is slick with the attachments and all, but sadly no wood burners.
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Old 11-26-2016, 12:57 AM   #33
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You should look into the Webasto Airtop 12 volt diesel fired forced air heater. It uses very little fuel and even less electricity, and should be enough to take the chill off those Arizona mornings you describe. (For that matter, you could leave it on all night on low, and never have a chill to worry about when you wake up!)

It can be set to recirculate interior air or to bring fresh air. Given that you're dealing with respiratory issues, it should be a fairly simple mod to rig up a HEPA filtered outside air intake on the underside of the bus. I'd probably use the coffee can shape shop vac HEPA filter (or two, stacked).

Plumbing propane is a hassle, an expense and it adds a significant safety concern. I'd be relieved to have the little Webasto, which is able to use the existing diesel fuel tank.

FWIW, the Kimberly wood stove is ridiculously overpriced and incapable of delivering the claimed BTU output and burn times. (And yes, I'm an expert...)
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:34 AM   #34
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You should look into the Webasto Airtop 12 volt diesel fired forced air heater....
$3K+? I hope to not spend that much for the whole bus. Though looking at it together ($6K for a warm bus), might yet be a good deal. But... a bit of sticker shock.

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...Plumbing propane is a hassle, an expense and it adds a significant safety concern. I'd be relieved to have the little Webasto, which is able to use the existing diesel fuel tank....
Good point. Lotsa value there!
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Old 11-26-2016, 09:00 PM   #35
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You should look into the Webasto Airtop 12 volt diesel fired forced air heater. It uses very little fuel and even less electricity, and should be enough to take the chill off those Arizona mornings you describe. (For that matter, you could leave it on all night on low, and never have a chill to worry about when you wake up!)

It can be set to recirculate interior air or to bring fresh air. Given that you're dealing with respiratory issues, it should be a fairly simple mod to rig up a HEPA filtered outside air intake on the underside of the bus. I'd probably use the coffee can shape shop vac HEPA filter (or two, stacked).

Plumbing propane is a hassle, an expense and it adds a significant safety concern. I'd be relieved to have the little Webasto, which is able to use the existing diesel fuel tank.

FWIW, the Kimberly wood stove is ridiculously overpriced and incapable of delivering the claimed BTU output and burn times. (And yes, I'm an expert...)
I was wondering how much it costs..but is it regardless of where its mounted? It seems like an excellent heater.
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Old 11-26-2016, 09:14 PM   #36
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Hey everyone,

Inspired by Rednic on youtube making wood stoves out of empty propane tanks, i am near completion on my own wood stove project. (empty tanks must be empty, and then have the valve unscrewed and filled with water before any cutting or drilling can take place without explosion risk)

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I also installed a propane fireplace in the bedroom area of this bus (see picture) and that has been superb, but i am craving a wood stove for nights when i am inside early and will NOT be leaving for awhile and am hanging out watching tv and playing online.

Still need to finish the vent and a few details but am close. Oh AND all the snading and drilling and dremeling was done with the solar power. Wow i sanded for a half hour today and still have plenty of battery power for tv and lights, and this is only a two panel 200w system. Solar is cool. Also super excited to be able to scavange wood from the alleys. Love being resourceful. These tanks will hold a considerable amount of wood.

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Old 11-26-2016, 10:10 PM   #37
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I would be interested to know if the seam where the tank halves were welded together can stand up to the heat that a wood stove going full tilt will put out....

And amen to filling the tank with water before cutting/drilling. The ONLY way to be sure all the explosive vapors have been vented out.
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Old 11-27-2016, 12:12 AM   #38
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you would melt the propane tank body at the same time you melted the seam, both are steel and have the same melting temp, and a wood fire in that small of a tank will never get hot enough to melt the steel, might make it glow dull red
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Old 11-27-2016, 05:54 AM   #39
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Yea I guess..... even if it's only glowing dull red that's a lot hotter than I would like an exposed (non-cooking) surface to get.... minimum second, more likely third degree burns if you bump into it, and if something falls against it and you don't see it.....
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Old 11-27-2016, 06:29 AM   #40
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[QUOTE=BlueBirdman;172881]You should look into the Webasto Airtop 12 volt diesel fired forced air heater. It uses very little fuel and even less electricity, and should be enough to take the chill off those Arizona mornings you describe. (For that matter, you could leave it on all night on low, and never have a chill to worry about when you wake up!)

It can be set to recirculate interior air or to bring fresh air. Given that you're dealing with respiratory issues, it should be a fairly simple mod to rig up a HEPA filtered outside air intake on the underside of the bus. I'd probably use the coffee can shape shop vac HEPA filter (or two, stacked).

Plumbing propane is a hassle, an expense and it adds a significant safety concern. I'd be relieved to have the little Webasto, which is able to use the existing diesel fuel tank.

so your not using propane to cook or heat water with?
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