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Old 09-02-2019, 10:54 AM   #11
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Interesting..... I registered my first bus in AZ when I moved there in 2001 and did not have to have an emissions test.

Come to think of it, I have not had to smog check a vehicle since 1994.

I wonder how common it is, across the country, to have to get an emissions check on a diesel bus/RV?
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Old 09-02-2019, 01:37 PM   #12
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Interesting..... I registered my first bus in AZ when I moved there in 2001 and did not have to have an emissions test.

Come to think of it, I have not had to smog check a vehicle since 1994.

I wonder how common it is, across the country, to have to get an emissions check on a diesel bus/RV?
Maybe age of vehicle? ours is a 2003.. although the entire registration processes seemed to have them a bit perplexed.. so who knows.

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Old 09-02-2019, 03:28 PM   #13
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Just looked it up. It's not statewide. Apparently emissions testing is only required for vehicles registered w/in the Phoenix or Tucson metro areas. I think (though I'm not sure) that Tucson might even differ in their diesel test requirements or procedures from us.
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Old 09-05-2019, 03:55 PM   #14
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Old 09-08-2019, 10:36 AM   #15
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Just looked it up. It's not statewide. Apparently emissions testing is only required for vehicles registered w/in the Phoenix or Tucson metro areas. I think (though I'm not sure) that Tucson might even differ in their diesel test requirements or procedures from us.
That explains it. I was in Bullhead city.

Similar situation here in WA. When I lived on the West side, I didn't have to have emissions tests but folks that lived 10 miles down the road from me did.
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Old 09-08-2019, 11:08 AM   #16
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:07 PM   #17
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WELCOME! I too am in Arizona, Scottsdale to be specific. I went through this process shortly after April of 2017, when I bought my 2001 AmTran 84 passenger bus and was invited by a friend to park my newly purchased bus in her gravel driveway (in north Phoenix). A month went by, and a trash-pickup driver spotted the bus, reported it, and I was given a warning about commercial vehicles parked in front of houses and was given 30 days to register the vehicle in Az or move it.

A few notes FWIW:
1. School Buses are categorized as a passenger transportation vehicle rather than a personal use vehicle and as such, considered a Commercial Vehicle until re-designated through the title/registration process.
2. The number of passengers a school bus can hold requires a commercial driver’s license, not just a standard operator’s license
3. Even a converted school bus is classified as a commercial vehicle if it has seats for more than 14 passengers. School bus seats are intended for maximum of 3 kids in each bench seat.

I have attached the PDF of the document I received. Item 15, on the second page is the key, as most of the rest is likely already on board. Be sure to check for a newer document! (not always available at the DMV)

I wanted to hedge my bets so I did the following:

First, I removed all the "School Bus stuff" from the exterior: stop signs, adhesive signage, etc. Then gave it a coat of some other color than yellow.

1. For Electricity, I hung a 4k generator in a door under the floor,
installed a 4 circuit electrical panel, and ran my electrical along
the walls, and chords down to the generator.
2. For Cooking I placed an Aroma AHP-312 Cast Iron/Die-Cast Metal
Electric Hot Plate, Black finish, $34.99 from Frys Electronics
3. For a Toilet I installed a Dometic Portable Toilet Bonus Pack, $89.99
from Bass Pro Shop.
4. For Heat I put a small oil filled radiator, and installed a 6K btu
window AC unit from Home depot, $169.00
5. For a Bed, I built a twin sized frame on board, and laid a 4" twin
foam mattress on it.

I have gone on to make some additional major mods (still ongoing) that are working toward full-Off-Grid capability. It is a labor of love that always has me thinking of "hmmm, what now?"
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:28 AM   #18
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We registered ours as an RV last January. Was easy process. There are several posts on here that have the policy from ADOT. We printed that and followed it. They had the same exact paper in their hand and read down it as they inspected. They were only interested in the modifications listed on the paper. Didn't care about color, lights, mechanical or any thing else. He did keep stressing that the mods had to "give the impression of permanent". Look at my build thread and u can see what I did and passed no problem.
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:34 AM   #19
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Just looked it up. It's not statewide. Apparently emissions testing is only required for vehicles registered w/in the Phoenix or Tucson metro areas. I think (though I'm not sure) that Tucson might even differ in their diesel test requirements or procedures from us.
Its location dependent. I'm in Tucson and I had to smog test. Pulled on and the let it idles for 60 seconds with a probe in it, took my money and was done. If I lived a half mile east I wouldn't have had to smog it. There's a map on the motor vehicles website.
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:14 PM   #20
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We are at 5600 ft altitude in a 1996 Bluebird AARE 40 ft. We put down 1” foam sheets on the floor followed by 3/4” plywood followed by composite flooring. We put 1” foam in the walls up to the window sills but ran out of time and energy to remove roof panels to insulate ceiling (wish we had) it gets real cold when the temps get below freezing. Been here three winters and plan on adding skirting to help keep things warmer during the winds. One thing that helps is reflectix or bubble wrap on the inside of the windows and blocking off the front drivers section and door from the living quarters. Good luck on your build. We used Henry’s Enviro-Whit to coat our roof which dropped the inside temperature 10 degrees. It’s been coated for 5 years and still working good.
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