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07-18-2016, 08:49 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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I don't have room for mini splits.
For those who think they don't have room for mini split AC this is a 1950 Flxible Clipper, it's only 34 feet long. It has two mini splits one in each end.
There wasn't much to take pictures of, it's pretty well enclosed, there are four pages of pictures of her build and there are a few of how the AC is mounted.
Trackmaster Fabricators - Ruthie
They live in Texas and put 30,000 miles on it last year, don't have a towed.
Dick
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07-18-2016, 08:52 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Excellent, thanks for the link!
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09-02-2016, 01:02 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 4
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That bus is awesome!
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09-11-2016, 07:01 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Mount Victory, OH
Posts: 85
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I love the Clippers. I know of a 49 Flxible Clipper near me and a Visacoach. The guy wants a lot for them and need a lot of work. Thanks for the link!
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09-13-2016, 12:14 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: WNC
Posts: 96
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I want mini splits if I can run 2 off a 30 AMP breaker, or a 3000 watt generator.
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09-13-2016, 12:44 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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I run mine on 30A all the time.
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09-13-2016, 02:12 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I rarely see my mini's go over 10-12 amps (at home)... they do use a little more heating than cooling.. but even in heat mode they never go over 13 amps.. since they are soft-start they are generator friendly/
-Christopher
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09-13-2016, 03:36 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: North carolina
Posts: 651
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Detroit 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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Is that a 120v mini heat pump or a split with a heat strip?
I have been told that they don't make them 120 with heat?
If so some manufacturers please!
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09-13-2016, 04:02 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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the ones in my house are from 2008.. inverter heat-pumps.. theres no strip heat.. i took my mini splits and tore them into pieces and built them completely custom into my zoned / modulated HVAC system and retained the ability to use my 95% effcient gas heat for backup and full-on winter heat.. (no this isnt in a bus.. this is my regular house)
Ive seen very few mini's with strip heat and none that run on 120 volts with strip..
www.acwholesalers.com
sells a bunch of different brands of minisplits... i got mine from there originally years ago... i had issues with them so they sent me a whole new set of 3, then ai figured out how to fix the originals so 2 of my replacements have been sitting in their cartons for 7 years...
mine were Grunaire units... chinese made like most of them are.. theres only a cpouple different chnese companies making them but they are sold under a ton of different names online...
-Christopher
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09-13-2016, 04:12 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Kansas
Posts: 492
Year: 2000
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: Your mom +1
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09-13-2016, 04:13 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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yes with a HEAT PUMP but not strip heat as asked about above
-Christopher
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09-13-2016, 04:13 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Mine are heat pumps, I still get some heat down to about 34°. Amps are about what Cadillac said. If it's not real hot out they run about 7A.
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09-13-2016, 04:17 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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the one in my house will blow warm air all the way down to about 8 degrees... they go to defrost alot there and ots not real hot air..
the efficiency and C.O.P. drops off significantly below 37 degrees outside... I have the graphs and number charts on mine somewhere.. (the chinese sent me the full factory service manuals for them in english)..
-Christopher
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04-22-2017, 06:27 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 2
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I am having trouble finding dual zone units in 120volt. Do y'all that have two interior heads run 2 outside units or is someone who makes what I need.
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04-22-2017, 06:31 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
I run mine on 30A all the time.
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Do you have 2 outside units or one outside that runs two inside. Can't find a dual zone in 120volt. And can I see picture of how everything is mounted. I have an 03 Bluebird FE
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04-22-2017, 10:43 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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I have 2 rear is where original condenser was. Front is between frame rails in front.
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05-30-2017, 10:41 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 159
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Ford
Chassis: E450 #Vanlife
Engine: 7.3 Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 25
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Do you have any pics of where and how your minis are mounted?
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05-30-2017, 11:02 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 487
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
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somewhereinusa, eastcoastcb put me onto your thread. Do you see any problem with mounting a mini split up high? For example skinning over my rear windows and mounting it there instead of right above the bumper. I ordered a 12k btu unit in the mail that I'm attempting to run fully off grid (we'll see) but I still haven't decided where to mount it.
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05-31-2017, 07:39 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Mounting of rear can be seen here.
http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/so...a-6318-25.html
Front is between frame rails right behind front bumper.
warewolff
I don't see a problem, I think that inside unit must be above outside unit. Perhaps cadillackid can answer better than me.
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05-31-2017, 07:57 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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the inside unit can be above or below the outside.. if you want to locate the inside unit Below the outside unit, you need to put a "trap" in your refrigerant Suction Line to trap the oil. it is simply a bend similar to what you see under the sink in your house.. you dont need it if the evaporator is level or above the outdoor unit.
remember though that the thermostat assumes the indoor unit is above your head inside.. so say you set it at 72.. it "assumes" that the temperature at the unit needs to drop a couple degrees further to compensate.. (ie so the air at 48" off the floor) is at the setpoint...
keep that in mind if you mount your indoor unit down low or do an under-floor ducted unit.
-Christopher
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