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Old 08-15-2005, 07:17 PM   #1
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I need expert information....

I have an opportunity to buy a 1998 BlueBird shuttle bus. It is a flat nose diesel pusher. It is a 22 passenger with 150000 miles. It is 29 foot long. It has a 8.3 Cummins Diesel & an Allison Automatic Transmission.

Has anyone had any experience with these?

Also, is anyone interested in buying the playhouse3 from me?

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Old 08-15-2005, 10:56 PM   #2
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Let me wipe up the drool first. If it is in good shape I would buy it in a heart beat. Since it has a Cummins 8.3 it almost certainly has an allison MT-643. What a sweet powertrain. Do you know what the rear end ratio is? The mechanical version of the 8.3 is easy to get more HP out of. You could easily turn it up to 300+. Of course the tranny is rated for a max of 250 many have done it though.

Since it is a shuttle I am assuming it has a high roof, basement storage, and A/C? As long as the engine and tranny are in good shape I would love to have one of these buses. Oh and is it air ride or spring? If it is ari ride make sure the bags are in good shape. They are not too bad to replace but all the small things add up.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:03 PM   #3
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Look out for front end looseness & worn shocks...either or both can make a pusher (or any forward-control vehicle) a thrill ride.

Also, does it have the electronic dashboard? If so, beware...the one we have at work is very troublesome.
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Old 08-17-2005, 02:09 PM   #4
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info on possible purchase

Howdy Friend

Well, the item as described, if not damaged in any way, sounds 100% good to me. that model of Cummins is good, the Allisons are bulletproof, and the low miles on both is good. I believe the Cummns should be good for at least another 100K miles, and I don't know if the Allisons ever wear out, especially in light duty like a 22 passenger bus.

Do you have any pics? I have never owned a bluebird, but would like to know more aobut them.

Hope you get your bus!

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Old 08-17-2005, 06:25 PM   #5
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Didn't get it....

Well, apparently his partner sold it without him knowing... This sucks, as I was just getting the boss (wife) to warm up to the idea. Now he wants to sell me a 1997 eldorado instead. What does everyone think?


The top one is the eldorado and is only a 27 footer and the bottom is the bluebird that I missed out on.

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Old 08-18-2005, 09:27 PM   #6
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Well, personally, I'd go find another bus. Lots more fun to construct your own!

(Edit) Ooops, I thought the Eldorado was a conventional RV.
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:29 PM   #7
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NOPE

Nope, it's a shuttle also...
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It's cute and it's just the right size to make a small conversion out of.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:29 PM   #9
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I would wait for another bus. BlueBirds are the Cadillacs. The other thing to consider is how much weight can the eldorado handle vs a BB.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:59 PM   #10
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OK, which is better:

1997 eldorado re with 64000 miles

or

1996 Bluebird similar to the one pictured on my web link comparison with 220000 miles, but a newly rebuilt allison auto trans.

Any ideas?

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