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Old 08-29-2019, 04:50 AM   #1
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IC. Ce 300 fools gold or not

Looking to buy me another bus as my most loved ouch bus is nearing its end as the cost to repair outweighs its value
Cheaper to buy another bus as my mechanic says
So I’m looking at the ic ce 300 s as a replacement
But worried about the max force engines
Any one have info on this bus engine
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Old 08-29-2019, 05:20 AM   #2
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Being Told the 4 is OK, but avoid the 7

We are in the process of purchasing our first bus and have been doing a lot of research on the DT466 vs the MaxxForce 4 vs the MaxxForce 7. From my research and from talking with mechanics, the consensus is that we should be OK with a 4, but we should AVOID the 7.


We originally looked at a 2005 IC CE DT466 (which is still a version of the MaxxForce to my understanding). But we found a 2008 IC CE in much better body condition and less miles, but it had a 4. So we were torn as to what to do: we're we better with the older bus with the DT466, or could we get the newer bus with the 4. From what we are being told, the 4 isn't so bad. The 7 is where IC started to fail on the engine side, causing them to use 3rd parties going forward (Cummins specifically).


Once again, from my understanding, we would have to go back to 1999 to get a true DT466. 2000 and on it became a MaxxForce DT466.


We are about a week away from having to make our decision, so I'm eager to see what other responses you get. And I'm open to correction on anything I just wrote.
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Old 08-29-2019, 05:51 AM   #3
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Yup I’ve read the same but I found it a bit confusing
As to what is what
Fun fun fun
It’s like work lol
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:11 AM   #4
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Looking to buy me another bus as my most loved ouch bus is nearing its end as the cost to repair outweighs its value
Cheaper to buy another bus as my mechanic says
So Iím looking at the ic ce 300 s as a replacement
But worried about the max force engines
Any one have info on this bus engine
I'd avoid em.
What year bus you talkin?
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:13 AM   #5
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Any year 98-97. 200? How’s dat
So what may I ask is a good short bus that looks like a big bus
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:17 AM   #6
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I’m doing due diligence
As I don’t have money like dat
And my blue bird mini bird p 30 is running on 7 cylinders sometimes 8
piston ring I think
Time to replace. Cheeper to replace then repair
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:21 AM   #7
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the DT466 became the Maxxforce DT in 2008, the DT466E received EGR starting in 2004.



2004 was the first year that some real issues began to pop up.. while im still a fan of the DT platform as a whole. (yes even the MFDT).. its golden "modern(electromnic)" years are 95-2003.. the mechanicals started to phase out in 95. though some upo through 98 existed as P-punped mechanicals through 98..



the complexity of the electronics and the engines themselves increased in 2004 with different turbos and the EGR system..



in my opinion for the laymen out there stay pre-04.. for the mechanically and electronically inclined the 04-07 is still a good solid platform.. the 08+ is a pretty good proven platform when run on longer journies and maintained IMPECCABLY.. and driven often.. diesel fuel ages and with DPF filters, clean-burn is imperative.. letting a modern diesel sit like many skoolies like to do (park for 6 months then drive across the country and park again) is bad bad for a DPF equipped engine.. you'll never warm a DPF equipped engine up enough to clear the DPF properly unless you actually drive it long enough to get it nice N hot..





now onto the OP... whats wrong with the current bus that makes it unrepairable?
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:22 AM   #8
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Thank you for your input
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Any year 98-97. 2003
So what may I ask is a good short bus that looks like a big bus
A 2003 wouldn't have a Maxxforce engine.
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:28 AM   #10
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My p 30. 6.2 is blowing white smoke big time on start up had my mechanic take a go found a bad injector
Put new one in still same
Took off valve cover make sure all was good ,it was did compression test on number two cylinder
No compression. But if I drive it it clears up
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