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04-21-2019, 01:42 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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identification of bus model
can anyone identify the model of this bus for me? - the ad gives very little information about it other than 'Ford 7.3 automatic transmission run good' - - - he hasn't replied to my email yet
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04-21-2019, 02:42 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,973
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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I think that's an early to mid 80's ford?
The 7.3 can be built to handle that double axle?
But what was that particular 7.3 specked to do from the organisation that ordered that bus?
I would think that 7.3 would be powered to at least 250 hp and a turbo with a double axle?
Built for a city route to haul heavy people verses you wanting hauling doggies and sleds.
If it meets your requirements in the area you live in?
I wouldn't be a fibreglass fan especiallydriving in the snow with all I enjoy my dogs/money makers My sled in the back?
A school bus body wise is bullet proofed to haul kids. Just gotta worry about the powertrain?
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04-21-2019, 02:55 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Roger bus 223
I think that's an early to mid 80's ford?
The 7.3 can be built to handle that double axle?
But what was that particular 7.3 specked to do from the organisation that ordered that bus?
I would think that 7.3 would be powered to at least 250 hp and a turbo with a double axle?
Built for a city route to haul heavy people verses you wanting hauling doggies and sleds.
If it meets your requirements in the area you live in?
I wouldn't be a fibreglass fan especiallydriving in the snow with all I enjoy my dogs/money makers My sled in the back?
A school bus body wise is bullet proofed to haul kids. Just gotta worry about the powertrain?
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If it is mid '80s it will have the IDI engine which is a very different motor than the later T444E or Powerstroke.
I don't think the IDI 7.3 was ever offered in a 250hp version.
I have never seen on rated for over 190 hp for the turbo version. If it is normally aspirated I think that the max factory hp was closer to 175 hp.
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04-21-2019, 03:06 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Roger bus 223
I think that's an early to mid 80's ford?
The 7.3 can be built to handle that double axle?
But what was that particular 7.3 specked to do from the organisation that ordered that bus?
I would think that 7.3 would be powered to at least 250 hp and a turbo with a double axle?
Built for a city route to haul heavy people verses you wanting hauling doggies and sleds.
If it meets your requirements in the area you live in?
I wouldn't be a fibreglass fan especiallydriving in the snow with all I enjoy my dogs/money makers My sled in the back?
A school bus body wise is bullet proofed to haul kids. Just gotta worry about the powertrain?
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it's a 91, so non turbo - I'd like to identify the model so I can find out if the bogey wheels can be lifted when the going gets tough - I like the idea of the short wheel base for tight or slippery conditions, but if the bogeys can't be lifted, it's not going to work for me - the bogeys would make it legal to carry the kind of weight I might carry from time to time
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04-21-2019, 03:10 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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That bus, with a non-turbo 7.3 IDI, is going to require a lot of patience when traveling. It won't be going anywhere fast.
They are a very reliable and economical engine but NOT a powerhouse by any stretch.
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04-21-2019, 03:12 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
If it is mid '80s it will have the IDI engine which is a very different motor than the later T444E or Powerstroke.
I don't think the IDI 7.3 was ever offered in a 250hp version.
I have never seen on rated for over 190 hp for the turbo version. If it is normally aspirated I think that the max factory hp was closer to 175 hp.
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it's a 91, so non turbo - and only 300 +++ ft lbs of torque, if I remember correctly - pretty wimpy really
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04-21-2019, 03:26 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleddgracer
it's a 91, so non turbo - and only 300 +++ ft lbs of torque, if I remember correctly - pretty wimpy really
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I drove a truck with one. It was slooooow but it had almost 400k miles on it and still ran good.
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04-21-2019, 03:28 PM
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#8
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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International/Navistar 7.3L IDI V-8 diesel
Valvetrain: 2 valves per cylinder, standard OHV, standard camshaft in block
Peak Horsepower: 185 hp @ 3,000 rpm (naturally aspirated) 190 hp @ 3,000 rpm (turbocharged)
Peak Torque: 338 lb-ft @ 1,400 rpm (naturally aspirated) 388 lb-ft @ 1,400 rpm (turbocharged)
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04-21-2019, 05:39 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 375
Year: 2003
Chassis: Chevy cut-away 6-window shortie
Engine: 6.0L Gasser
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I had a dually with the 6.9L IDI. (Funny enough it a crew cab with full bed, and so clocked in at 22' -- only 3 feet shorter than the bus I now have!) The truck with nothing in it was 6400 lbs. Loaded with about a ton of weight in the back, and towing another ton behind it, I got about 14mpg. Empty and no trailer I got about 14mpg. On the hills in western Virginia, it felt like I was doing 14mph loaded (in reality 30-40 on the steeper parts of the interstate, probably). Driving I-68 in West Virginia, we probably did get close to 14mph on at least one of the big hills.
The 7.3L IDI is to my knowledge just a larger-bored 6.9L. Plenty reliable as stated, but a true dog unless you're on the flatlands. I was never in a hurry when driving it, so it was fine for me. To be honest I wish I never sold it...
Chris
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04-21-2019, 07:08 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by farok
I had a dually with the 6.9L IDI. (Funny enough it a crew cab with full bed, and so clocked in at 22' -- only 3 feet shorter than the bus I now have!) The truck with nothing in it was 6400 lbs. Loaded with about a ton of weight in the back, and towing another ton behind it, I got about 14mpg. Empty and no trailer I got about 14mpg. On the hills in western Virginia, it felt like I was doing 14mph loaded (in reality 30-40 on the steeper parts of the interstate, probably). Driving I-68 in West Virginia, we probably did get close to 14mph on at least one of the big hills.
The 7.3L IDI is to my knowledge just a larger-bored 6.9L. Plenty reliable as stated, but a true dog unless you're on the flatlands. I was never in a hurry when driving it, so it was fine for me. To be honest I wish I never sold it...
Chris
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I like the looks of the bus and the price is right, I think, but I hate being the one holding up traffic
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04-21-2019, 09:57 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Greater Boston
Posts: 504
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If I was looking at something that size, I'd look for a regular full-size bus. Even with the tag axle, that's a lot of weight for an E-series frame.
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04-21-2019, 10:09 PM
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#12
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_In_MA
If I was looking at something that size, I'd look for a regular full-size bus. Even with the tag axle, that's a lot of weight for an E-series frame.
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do you know if that's a E350, E450, or E550?
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04-22-2019, 05:19 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleddgracer
I like the looks of the bus and the price is right, I think, but I hate being the one holding up traffic
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That's inevitable with any bus.
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04-22-2019, 09:07 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
That's inevitable with any bus.
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true enough, but I don't want to be the one holding up the Volkswagen vans on the hills - lol
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