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08-14-2018, 05:02 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 11
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International 3800 Question
Found a 1995 International 3800 with 250k miles recently pull from a school system. What is a reasonable price for this bus? Everything seems in good shape from the Craigslist ad. Going to look Thursday morning.
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08-14-2018, 05:45 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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What engine and trans? Any rust issues? How long is it? These things determine the price.
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08-14-2018, 05:48 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
What engine and trans? Any rust issues? How long is it? These things determine the price.
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Not sure the transmission, I am sure I will find out on Thursday. I don't believe there is a spot of rust, but I will confirm on Thursday as well. If you had to ball park it, what do you think?
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08-14-2018, 05:55 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by britainweyant
Not sure the transmission, I am sure I will find out on Thursday. I don't believe there is a spot of rust, but I will confirm on Thursday as well. If you had to ball park it, what do you think?
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Also it is a full size bus. 3800 T444E
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08-14-2018, 06:12 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Where is the bus located. It's rare to find one that is completely rust free as the rust is usually under the floor where you don't see it. Don't rely on CL pics. I have a bus here, looks great in the pics but it extremely battlescarred around the whole bus.
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08-14-2018, 06:21 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Where is the bus located. It's rare to find one that is completely rust free as the rust is usually under the floor where you don't see it. Don't rely on CL pics. I have a bus here, looks great in the pics but it extremely battlescarred around the whole bus.
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Bus is located in Georgia.
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08-14-2018, 07:01 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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I paid $2500 for my 1996 28 foot International 3800 T444E with some minor rust on rear and 174000 miles on it. That should give you a ball park, but a mid sized bus usually sells higher than a 40 footer.
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08-14-2018, 07:26 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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If it's near a coastal city I would make sure to go over it with a fine tooth comb for rust. Ga. seems to run their buses longer than most and they are worn. I just bought a Ga. bus from mid north area and it is battlescarred and worn.
Trans would be a deciding factor for me. As Johnny mentioned, that typically would be a $2500 bus, less with a 545 and more with a 5-6 speed.
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08-16-2018, 08:55 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 11
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All right everyone. Here looking now. Engine sounds great, was used for schooling as I said. Tires look decent, undercarriage all looks good. Transmission IS in fact a 545. I offered 2200 they countered 2400.
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08-16-2018, 10:17 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by britainweyant
All right everyone. Here looking now. Engine sounds great, was used for schooling as I said. Tires look decent, undercarriage all looks good. Transmission IS in fact a 545. I offered 2200 they countered 2400.
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Did you test drive it on the freeway to see top cruising speed? Least desirable tranny, so think about your intended use.
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08-16-2018, 01:36 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by britainweyant
All right everyone. Here looking now. Engine sounds great, was used for schooling as I said. Tires look decent, undercarriage all looks good. Transmission IS in fact a 545. I offered 2200 they countered 2400.
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What are mileage and engine hours?
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08-16-2018, 02:09 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Popular opinion is that the T444E is a bad match for a full size bus. I have one in my short bus and it's OK but I wouldn't want to add another 5 tons to it. The AT545 will be a bigger burden than the engine at highway speed, if it is even geared to do it.
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09-26-2018, 02:46 PM
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#13
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Gulfport, Ms
Posts: 10
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E 7.3 L
Rated Cap: 62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
If it's near a coastal city I would make sure to go over it with a fine tooth comb for rust. Ga. seems to run their buses longer than most and they are worn. I just bought a Ga. bus from mid north area and it is battlescarred and worn.
Trans would be a deciding factor for me. As Johnny mentioned, that typically would be a $2500 bus, less with a 545 and more with a 5-6 speed.
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Yup, I bought a '98 International 3800 with 74k miles for $2500! Good deal I thought......untill I started the demo. large sections of the floor is rotten. I mean through the steel rotten! And most of it was not visible from underneath. The windows were leaking and with the rubber floor on top, one never knew.
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