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Old 12-02-2012, 02:12 AM   #11
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. . . I don't have that piece of paper that the young guys do, a College degree. . . .
A more important piece of paper in this business is the FCC General Radiotelephone Operator's License (GROL). The GROL is equivalent to the old Second Class Radiotelephone Operators' License, and replaced both the Second Class and the First Class. It is good for life, unless revoked for cause. The FCC does not give the exam directly anymore, but sub-contractors hold exam sessions for those who want the license anyway. Even though the FCC has not required operators' licenses for about 30 years, some government contracts still require having FCC licensed employees on staff.

If one finalist has a degree, and the other has a GROL license, the candidate with the license will normally win. The exception might be if the hiring is being done by a Human Resources specialist without any department input inside an multifaceted organization so big that you will be reduced to a number. But the RF units of most vendors or government sub-divisions are usually so small that everyone knows each other. And most outfits have only one or maybe two old, wise ones full of practical wisdom, whose retirement leaves a gaping hole that needs filling in mentoring the next generation.

Cell site maintenance is another option. I know about 20 years ago as cell phones were first taking off, the carriers would throw crazy money at anyone who had ever put a screwdriver to a radio and was willing to live out of a suitcase. They would be sent all over to go and supervise laborers throwing up cell sites. I think that frenzy has died down over the years. I am seeing more technology upgrades every year than I am seeing new cell towers, such as adding LTE or another 4G technology, and Sprint converting the Nextel channels they bought to phone and data. But there are still a handful of techs who are on call to go and swap out a channel if a site has a problem.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:00 AM   #12
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Although I did not get into Communications as deep as you . and I too do not have that college degree but worked the in the Army Signal Corps for 20 plus years.
Mostly Ops, FM, AM, RaTT, Wire, Landline, COMSEC ,Vinson, GPS, ....... Mostly BDE level and down..... However ......

My nickname in the Army was ""FM"" ........ cause the **** starting working whenever I showed up!!!!!!!!! ""Frigging Magic""


Kinda nice to have a littlle respect every now and then........
Hang in there , You'll get er done...
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I was a 31M in the Army before I switched to the blue.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:34 AM   #14
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I was a 31M in the Army before I switched to the blue.
First 4 years 11B Infantry, & 13B Mortars, Vietnam.....

After reenlistment 31B Field Radio Mechanic/ 11B secondary, and general flunky.......
31Z..... After promotion to E-7 /E8 can't remember all that stuff anymore.....
Made 1st SGT returned to communications (by request) after the start of Desert Storm to assist the V Corp Signal in IRAQ under VII Corps Command......

It was a BLAST...... Boom there it is.....
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Thanks to all for your service...19K,8 months in a tank during the Storm...got putout for BS medical after a total of 16 years....still miss those "steel coffins"
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Thanks to all for your service...19K,8 months in a tank during the Storm...got putout for BS medical after a total of 16 years....still miss those "steel coffins"
Not a problem, Pleasure was all mine... Like I said It was a BLAST...
Now we only remember the good stuff, that's why the fond memories. no one wants to remember the other stuff we try to forget.......

Sorry you got the boot?
My Unit in Desert Storm was a tank unit..... 3 Armored Division out of Gelnhausen, Germany......... I was the 1SG in the HHC 2nd Bde HQ.
BDE Commander requested "F. M " & I returned to Communications for Desert Storm........
Never tried to get the 1SG job back as we disbanded the unit upon return from Desert Storm. After PCS ended up in Chicago, IL as a Communications Consultant in the 1ST Army Readiness Group
stationed at FT Sheridan, IL

Man. that was 20 plus years ago... damn
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Mmm....still remember the "stuff" that kicked me in the ass and said...(edited before post)...I learned a lot both good and bad...I don't need a shower ever day...I don't need food every day..I thank the lord every day...
There have been times as others know...that life ...well really is a bitch.
You have choices to make...they are good if your heart believes it.....others may digress....well....F--..them choices
Are just that....
I am stronger....my family values are stronger(some may be different than others) I know I have learned well....it does scare my beatiful and loving wife at times......she knows without doubt I have here back.....
Sorry for off topic.....blame it on the grapes oh....and 3890 meters is not that far away.....peace to all
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