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Old 11-14-2015, 07:36 PM   #1
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ISO bump up scenic cruiser

http://www.dailyturismo.com/2013/05/5k-bustrocity-gm-scenicruiser-bus-w.html?m=1

Has anybody seen any of these for sale in decent shape for under 8 grand? Always loved these. Having convinced a friend that they want to live in a bus too...they have their heart set on this type. Using the storage bays as sleeping quarters with interior access it would make an incredible bus.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:37 PM   #2
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I saw one in the parking lot at a casino today. They are hard to find for less than $9k but you really want one that is over $11k. If you search the terms GM PD-4501, GMC PD-4501, GM PD45011, GM 4501... sceniccrusier, buffalo bus. There are some other variants of that style too. Manual drives are easily found Autos are not. Most of the listings you will find are in the $13-15K range but I am sure you can get it down a bit. I like that style of bus but the lady friend said hell no. I will use some goole fu later tonight and post a couple of links.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:14 AM   #4
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First off thankyou for that. Those are a lot of really nice buses. But one of the things that is so unique and interesting to me about the type im searching for is how far back the bump up is and how extreme it is. I've designed essentially an interior that utilizes the storage bays much like a cuddy cabin mini yacht, if you can dig it. It gives it a fantastical look with the step up so far back. I can't seem to find many pictures of them much less any for sale...
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Old 11-15-2015, 03:28 AM   #5
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Warning bus history lesson!!!!!!!!!


Well there are many models with the buffalo hump (not just the 4105) that would lead to the storage bays. You have to understand that when this design shift was occurring there was a major power play in the US/north america bus manufacturing scene. Greyhound was consolidating power as the dominant carrier and they were tired of dealing with multiple bus manufacturers so they bought a controlling share in MCI. When they did that they made GM almost get out of the intercity bus game. Which is why all the pre 1970 busses are GM and all the post 70 busses are MCI/TMC<same busses different name. Then when greyhound started loosing market share for nationwide transport in the late 80's to the airlines regional operators took over the majority steak in bussing which lead to the rise of provost and european makers to start influencing the american market.

Now the buffalo hump was a popular style until they just started making busses that were tall from beginning to end. I like the idea of doing the sunken bunk, I just think it would be really hard to have sex in one. Unless the floor just dropped down an inch and slid into the next bay, or accordion folded up, or...

If you are dead set on the $8k budget you are going to have to be patient and observant. You could also check over at bus nuts or busconverson magazines sites they have classifieds too.


heres the wiki page for the buffalo busses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Buffalo_bus

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It gives it a fantastical look with the step up so far back. I can't seem to find many pictures of them much less any for sale...
Thats because many of them got turned into beer cans, if you catch my drift. A lot of the humped busses just have the same shift just not in the middle. There is also the flxible vistaliner liner but good luck finding one of them less than $10k and it will still be a fixer upper. Something like this one http://www.sellabus.com/japavek.html
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Old 11-15-2015, 04:05 AM   #6
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Lol you are the man. Yes he and I and whatever friends we can trick here and there to help would be planning a complete tear down to the bones and building it out with everything new and custom, unlike my bus where I kept my ceiling panels because im a weirdo. Lol at the sex problem you point out. When we have it torn down to the frame my
Plan actually involves raising the interior floor above the storage bays with steps up to the new floor located between the frame rails. Such that the bedroom would have a tall enough ceiling so sit in a low chair. Depending on how that affects the head room above would determine the maximum height it could be raised. The floor in other areas would be left at normal
Height. The couch and tv area being located above said bedroom. This would leave front of the bus free for on the go seating and hanging out, the rear for kitchen and bathroom, the middle has the tv/stove couch space. It seems that some models had an actual second story while others had a single passenger cabin with a raised rear over the storage bays? Why is there something about 1950s highway buses that I love so much haha. Did I mention that I'm going to check out a 1954 Leyland Titan fully enclosed Doubledekker after Christmas!!!!granted it is shot to ****, and not running or driving, but it is towable on tires that hold air... And it's got one of the first overhead cam diesels designed in it... I don't know I think I'm going crazy
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:50 AM   #7
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Those Britt double deckers would be fun to convert and a nightmare to drive anywhere in america. They are designed to drive in cities, you know what you don't have a lot of in most cities, wind. Cross winds would make you pull over nose into the wind until they died down while driving. Even once you parked you might have to run guy wires to keep your bus upright if it got too bad. You would need a pilot car OR big rig GPS to make sure you didn't hit anything as they are 14'6" the legal max. Neoplan makes a double decker too, can't remember the name of it. However it too would cost an arm and a leg.
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Old 11-15-2015, 09:03 AM   #8
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I'm still waiting to hear back from the person who bought the $25k double decker that tops out at 45mph. Supposedly it was gonna be driven from Orlando to California.
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Neoplan makes a double decker too, can't remember the name of it. However it too would cost an arm and a leg.
There's also the Van H(Dr)ool TD925 double deckers used by Megabus and Bolt. Those would be awesome
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Old 11-15-2015, 03:58 PM   #10
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Yeah my plan with the double decker would be to build it into a cabin, and use the engine and drivetrain to power strange machines like a log processor, log to firewood. Or a elevator, or a crane etc. imagine just a million pto machines running off the big Diesel engine and a large semicircular deck coming off the second floor on one side. I know... I have problems
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