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Old 09-18-2006, 02:10 PM   #1
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Master Cylinder Rebuild Kit

So my brakes are going out, pretty sure its the master cylinder because there are no leaks. Im positive I can rebuild it myself (ive already done alot of engine work), so Im looking for a rebuild kit.

UNFORTUANTLY I doont know who made the master cylinder so I cant just go into autozone or something. I'll have to goto an International shop, and they are always overpriced.


If anyone knows what a 1986 6.9lD ThomasBuilt/International has for the master cyclender it would be very helpfull. (Mine is also a short bus, not full size).


Anyone know a good place to find this out? apart from going to an international parts dealer. I usually find that if I know who makes the compenent its ineveitably been in some standard vehical and I can find the parts at an autozone or what-not which is usually way cheaper than the internationla dealership
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:14 PM   #2
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Have you tried goign to Autozone yet? I can get just about anything for my bus at Napa, Champion, Auto Value, etc. I just tell them it's a Ford B700. As for whether or not they have the parts (like fuel filters ) in stock is another issue.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:55 PM   #3
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Brake parts

The easiest place to get brake parts is at a brake store. A bus is a big vehicle, so go to a big vehicle store. Take the master cylinder with you. Having the unit apart is good too. I like to rebuild my cylinders myself and save some money. These type stores can supply about any brake parts needed. Brake supply stores usually know a great deal about all types of brakes and can supply many other bus parts. Frank
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:42 PM   #4
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I never minded international prices they are cheap compared to what the ford dealers want for the same parts. (refering to engine parts)

Around in my area http://www.catcoparts.com/ often has some of the stuff we have needed for buses and they are a little less then other places such as napa for brake pads. And the calipers that napa didn't have a listing for catco had them too.
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Like those Ford stealerships, Wmah? Atleast I can't complain about the customer service at the local dealership. Even though the mechanics might argue with me that I havea 6.9 or 7.3 and not a 6.6, they're more than willing to print me any diagrams and specs I want after they learn Ford had two diesels of its own. I really should just get the microfiche from them....
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so I ordered the kit from international, it was like 60bucks


So I get home and take apart the master cyclender and start tearing it apart. I look at the parts in my kit and realize the guy ordered the kit for rebuilding the Power Assist (for the brakes).

Frustrated I figure might as well inspect the master cylender AND the power assist. Not seeing anything worn on the master cylinder, I tear apart the power assist, the O-ring was a bit worn down, and figured maybe that was causing the problem. So I rebuild the whole Power Assist and reconnect everything bleed the brakes, and tada! It works.

Irony works in your favor sometimes. Guy orders the wrong kit from what I told him, but in reality ordered the right kit that I needed.

go figure.
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Cool. Fun when stuff works out like that. Too bad it ended up being a $60 o-ring.
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Cool. Fun when stuff works out like that. Too bad it ended up being a $60 o-ring.
yeah seriously. although I did replace everything else the kit came with. So I replaced lots of o-rings, and little metal parts seals, etc. So its practically new.
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i'd be perfectly happy to spend 60 bucks in order to have brakes that work.

parts for big trucks are expensive

the water pump for my old ford 6.6 liter was over $400
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Yeah, but if the part is $60 @ International, then the part is probably 30 or 40 at autozone/kragen/napa. The only problem is you have to know the part number, because most of the people at autozone./kragen/napa/etc are braindead.

Parts Guy: "What year is it?"
Me: Its not in your computer
PG: Well I need the year
Me: ok, but its not in there... 1986
PG: What make?
Me: Its not in there, but its International
PG: its not in here... what model is it?
Me: Its not in there, but its in an S1700 School Bus
PG: ohh, we dont have parts for that
Me: yes you do, in fact the part in need is a GM Master Cylender Rebuild kit
PG: we dont have school bus parts
Me: yes you do, its the same parts used in other vehicles
PG: well I cant help you. we dont have parts for a.. uhm school bus


ARRRGH!!

When I goto an autozone, I make sure I KNOW EVERYTHING possible. Occasionally I can get them to look up the part. All they need to do is open this book they ahve behind the counter. I know, because the few times I got someone who wanted to help me instead of jerk me around he pulled the book out and flipped through it. Only took him 5mins to find my part.

But yeah heres me at an international dealership.

Me: I need a master cylinder rebuild kit
PG: whats the vin
*I hand vin over
*tap tap tap on keyboard
PG: We can get that.

So sometimes 20-30bucks is what you pay not ot have a headache. Occasionaly the international guy will help me out and give me the part number so I can go get it elsewhere, when he realizes that Im just a joeschmo with a schoolbus

Ironically the first part i ordered from International was this kit, and he ordered the wrong kit from what I thought I needed, but in the end was the right kit. lol
I feel dizzy now.
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