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Old 09-04-2013, 12:08 PM   #11
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there are several....now you do realize the next step is a class 8 HDT to tow it with right?
D'oh! My wife isn't gonna be happy about that!
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:44 PM   #12
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Been there, done that! I had a 6000#, 28', dual axle, electric braked Terry trailer. Thats 6000#s empty. My little Suburban 350 groaned everytime we started out and my eyes got BIG every time we tried to stop. No amount of extension on the rear view mirrors could cure the blind spots and the overhang behind the rear wheels made making tight turns giong through a city a nightmare. I had to store the thing at a local mobile home park as it could not be kept at a residence in the city. The storage was near the beach and within a year the thin-as-humming bird skin- aluminum roof began to leak where the salt ate it up.

I'd have to say that the only other toy I've had that was as much a PITA as that trailer would have to be my sail boat which is, as we all know, a hole in the water into which one must pour money

All that having been said, my bus is very small, has cost way more than the trailer and needs to have air let out of the tires to get it in and out of the garage each time I move it.

I think I'll start a thread on the advantages of staying in a hotel------
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:38 PM   #13
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I think I'll start a thread on the advantages of staying in a hotel------
I don't know, I have been told it takes awhile to get them up to speed and you need two states to stop it.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:49 PM   #14
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Ah shucks--I thought I had it figured out
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:27 PM   #15
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Re: Motorhome vs. Trailer

I thought long and hard about building a trailer vs building a bus (ie, buy an enclosed car hauler etc to convert vs buy a bus to convert). One of the biggest reasons we picked the bus route is the convenience and comfort of having the "facilities" (toilet, fridge, running water) available while driving, plus the ability to get up and stretch and move while going to use said facilities. That has already proven to make travel with my young family much more pleasant. If not for this factor, I'd probably have picked to build in a 20-30 ft enclosed trailer instead.
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My thought is a bus and toad are a better pair for unhooking and exploring the neighborhood than a TT with Dually/MDT/HDT propulsion.

But the best reason I have heard for being self-contained concerns those who Wallydock while enroute from Point A to Point B. If the location of one's evening rest stop isn't in the most genteel of neighborhoods, and a group of nearby inhabitants with questionable motives start to assemble in the area of your home for the night, you can hit the key and go without the requirement to exit and possibly exchange "pleasantries" with the locals while en route to your tow vehicle.
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Re: Motorhome vs. Trailer

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Over the time I have been on this site I have enjoyed your post/build/comment. Thank you for those and yes maybe Im a little bias but your also a fellow Texan.

Ill chip away at your questions but I cant say 100% as my bus is not finished and I have made some of the trips you have had. I am 43 years old and come from VERY modest means (kind way of saying we were poor) but remember some of the trips I took as a child. Yes they are engrained in my head forever some good some bad. I have always enjoyed working on cars all of my life. I am self taught so I have learned from the school of hard knocks. Expert fabber..... NO. But I enjoy a good challenge so to me my bus (be it long and VERY slow) is a perfect outlet to practice that craft.

On to your questions:

I think self contained device is the only way to do it. I first started with the thought of getting a TT and hauling it so when I got in to a job doing medium I over bought the truck (3500 dually) I needed
to pull such a unit. So after financing 35k there was a HUGE dollar investment. After not being able to find a half way decent TT to remodel and make it as I wanted and not being able to afford a new trailer I found a school bus and thought.... why not. So I bought it for 1300. I know you know about the construction of TT. I am glad I went the bus route. The notes you make about a bus are all right on in my opinion. The problem with truck/TT deal... your lucky to get people in there. Ever take a REALLY long road trip (visions of National Lampoons Vacation roll through my head) a smaller truck? Its a beating. More so with younger kids as I have. As stated above you start to do the math as I started (35k for truck and lets say 10k for trailer) I think for 45k you can go a long ways on a bus. Also that truck still needs just as much work to keep them up as a big bus? Only bad thing is if that is your daily driver and needs a major repair... well your really screwed unless your very well off and have a fleet of vehicles to choose from? So again I think its advantage bus here.

Mechanical things break. Its just a part of life. There is never a good time for a repair van/truck or bus. I do agree you and unhook and go about where ever you are and go get things and it will be tons easier than a bus. This is where I have no practical experience when it comes to the bus but I have thought about this and I feel if we take a longer trip somewhere to just call a car rental company and rent a car for the day to move around (if needed) than to tow one thousands of miles. I think 20-30 bucks a day would be way easier.

I am very much like you like to shake things up and look at them from different angles.

As for your disadvantages
1) you have to choose your battles wisely. Becoming a medium truck mechanic is not on my list. Yes it would be good to not have those repair bills but all the time you spend being the truck mechanic means less time with family/friends/etc.
2) the cost of those items are proportional to the smaller counter parts. Tires are a part of ownership be it large truck or smaller truck. Knowing what I know about truck tires I would go to a truck stop and see what they have used. I think what you pay for a new set of tires versus how we use the bus is not worth the investment.
3) Those same very cost (insurance, registration, maintenance, etc) are also for trailers. There is no easy way out
4) I personally have no experience in this area. I am not liking what you are saying here but it comes with the territory. As for the shift... sounds like early tranny trouble to me but not riding in your bus its hard to say. One of the things I am looking forward to (ruff ride and all) is having people being able to walk around while moving down the road. You cant do that in a suburban or dually? Not sure if your aware but I talked to a DPS trooper but it is illegal in Texas for people to ride in a bumper pull trailer. He said a 5th wheel is ok but I don't think I would feel safe with people being in my trailer in a truck trailer application.


Very good post. I will be following this.
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Re: Motorhome vs. Trailer

Thanks to everyone for your replies! This has been very interesting reading, and has given me more to think about than I had previously considered.
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Let us know how and what you do. I truly believe that you have some very good ideas and those work well when you share them
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Re: Motorhome vs. Trailer

I even looked into a semi truck and furniture trailer (low to the ground and more interior height) but one thing I couldn't get around.....how many people can you put in the cab of a truck? Bathroom stops? Meals? After hauling HD's on an open trailer I wasn't gonna do that again, even an enclosed trailer is an exercise in trust in what you will find when you open up the back. A bus is the only way to go. Sportyrick
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