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Old 11-16-2008, 03:26 PM   #11
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Long bed regular cab 3rd gen...cool truck. They flat tow really well. Unlock the front hubs (I'm hoping you don't have auto hubs or the ADD system), and take the 4 bolts out of the driveshaft on the rear. You can tow that truck without pulling the rear shaft for short distances, but I wouldn't do it any further than necessary. If you do decide to tow with the rear driveshaft on leave the t-case in 2-Hi and put the tranny in neutral. Toyota t-cases don't have a true neutral. In neutral the rear output is disconnected from the input, but is engaged to the front output so in t-case neutral you would be spinning the rear shaft, part of the t-case, and the front shaft along with the diff and axleshafts.
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:34 PM   #12
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Waddup J! Yeah man like the other guy said find a way to mount on the front bumper, that way you can tow and open the back door for whatever. Also you can see if your bike is about to or fell off. You can ask me why I say this next time I see you.
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:49 PM   #13
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I don't know about the camber etc... But the Jeep 4x4 is easy to set-up, baseplates are readily available, easy to self install, and even the tail lights have special red lens chambers for adding tow light kits to them. The part that really makes them good for towing is the manual transfer case goes into neutral, the transmission stays in park...you can tow all day long without need to start the motor or pump fluids, and a gazzilion mies later the Jeep has no added mileage because it is still in PARK...
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:05 PM   #14
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I don't know about the camber etc... But the Jeep 4x4 is easy to set-up, baseplates are readily available, easy to self install, and even the tail lights have special red lens chambers for adding tow light kits to them. The part that really makes them good for towing is the manual transfer case goes into neutral, the transmission stays in park...you can tow all day long without need to start the motor or pump fluids, and a gazzilion mies later the Jeep has no added mileage because it is still in PARK...
Had a customer who goofed on that with a manual trans jeep, trans supposed to be in reverse and transfer case in neutral, customer had trans in reverse and accidentally got t-case in 4-lo, took off in his motor home headin down the highway 60mph or so until the engine compartment of the jeep actually burst into flames, oil pump running backwards make no oil pressure and engine spinning ungodly rpm, he had a good insurance policy though, company called it an act of god and paid for new motor, wiring harness, body work
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:00 AM   #15
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I don't know about the camber etc... But the Jeep 4x4 is easy to set-up, baseplates are readily available, easy to self install, and even the tail lights have special red lens chambers for adding tow light kits to them. The part that really makes them good for towing is the manual transfer case goes into neutral, the transmission stays in park...you can tow all day long without need to start the motor or pump fluids, and a gazzilion mies later the Jeep has no added mileage because it is still in PARK...
Adding in additional camber really wouldn't be difficult for an alignment shop that has a tech that knows what he is doing. It might make the Jeep somewhat harder to handle when you're driving it, but power steering pumps rarely go into bypass unless you are trying to move the curb with your tire leading me to believe there is plenty of power assist reserve capacity.

As for towing with the transfer case in neutral...that is debateable. A lot is going to depend on what transfer case you have in the first place. If you have an old CJ or FSJ with a Dana 20 or Dana 300 then I would see no problems in driving that in neutral. I think they would be more than capable of slinging 80w90 off the gears in neutral though truth be told, I like to pack the rear output bearings with grease on old gear drives like that. I'm not sure how long the grease lasts and they're supposed to be oil bath bearings, but I don't always trust those slingers.

Now if you own a slightly newer Jeep with an NP231 (like an XJ, YJ, or MJ) it is not a good idea to tow without pulling the rear shaft because the front and rear outputs get tied together like on the Toyotas. Now somewhere down the line (I know in 1999, but maybe earlier?) the range and mode functions were liberated via a small modification to an internal shift collar.

Other Jeeps have rather elaborate full time 4wd setups, but I don't think they are what you're going to find tagging along as the average toad, but if you did you would need to pull the rear shaft.

All things considered I could keep rambling on with reasons why you should pull the rear shaft, but I can only come up with one good reason not to and that's that you just plain don't want to do the work. And that is fine. I just like the piece of mind that comes with removing 4 bolts.

Toyota guys have a cool, albeit expensive option available to them. Front Range Offroad makes a full floating conversion kit for the Toyota rear axles that's going to get you disc brakes and more strength. You can break an axleshaft with their conversion and it won't matter. The wheel will still stay on. That's nice piece of mind. But the best part of the conversion is that you get manual locking hubs for the rear as well. Turn 4 dials and you've totally 100% disconnected your driveline. Unfortunately, the kit is $669 and you still need to source load Supra calipers and a bunch of 79-85 solid front axle parts which are getting to be a bit expensive with the limited aftermarket. They aren't making any more of those parts...

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Sorry this is off subject but how can I get one of those cool U.S where i've been maps that color in?
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