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Old 09-04-2007, 12:41 PM   #1
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Did you get that panel setup at Harbor Freight? I saw them selling ones like that there.
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:06 AM   #2
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yes , the harbor freight special , minus that charge controller , the one that comes in the kit allready died , i hope the panels are better quality
Yeah all of Harbor Freight's stuff is hit or miss. I never know if what I purchase there will do what it says on the box or for how long. Their saving grace is they have a good return policy, a decent warranty program and some of their stuff is so cheap it's easy to purchase it over again if you got some decent service life out of it to begin with.

Will they let you return the Controller?
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Let us know how well those panels work, I was even toying with the idea of going and buying a set of those tonight.
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:44 AM   #4
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ROFLMFAO! arkie turned us on to those THREE YEARS AGO here http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Sch ... sage/11833
if you follow out the threads on them you'll see that he explains how to move ONE WIRE ( with photos ) to make the charge controller work properly. he also explains how to get them for $199 shipping paid. and you failed to mention it comes with TWO flourscent lights and that the charge controller is also a voltage adapter that puts out 12-9-6-3vdc all at once so you can also charge those different devices you have that work off those voltages ( does your controller do that? ). if you go to schoolbusconversionuts and type in SOLAR in the subject line and ARKANSASCAJUN in the author line and do a search you'll get an education in what you can and can't do with these systems. as well as other alternative energy systems. i've had mine three years in constant use with the original controller ( with the fix ) and have had zero problems.
ps. controllers don't make any noise!( even before the fix )
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Here is a good discussion describing the noise that you are talking about.

http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2006/8/5/212433/2619

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When my battery reaches a full charge, the charge controller gets unbearably annoying! It BEEEPS really really loud, it also makes a grainy rough sound... almost like water running through pipes. Both of the sounds are extremely annoying. Turning off the charge controller will stop the annoying sound. Using my inverter and laptop while charging will also stop the sound (but that's because I'm slightly dropping the voltage so my controller thinks the battery isn't full anymore).
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I doubt it's defectve, from the way you dscribe thngs. It sounds like the gurgling is the charge controller flucuating between charging and not charging real fast. If you're worried about it real bad, and you feel confortable doing it try this. Open it up, if possible leaving it connected. Be real careful and listen to it up close, don't poke around inside just look. You should see a little black cylinder with a hole in the top. That's the buzzer. You can then unhook it (controller) from the batteries and PV's and stuff that hole with loose bits of cotton ball, but not too full. Just enough to dampen the movement that makes the sound. That should shut it up pretty good, but still allow you to know it is working. Don't touch anything else without being grounded. Static discharge might kill it. Your other option is to disable it. That will involve some trickery with a soldering iron, but is easy. You could also place a switch between one of the feed pointsfor the buzzer and the buzzer proper. My trace C-40 doesn't have a buzzer, and I really don't see the need for one. A good volt meter is more useful than a buzzer.
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I have two of these kits tied together with a 1200 watt inverter and a 115 Amp deep cycle marine batt. I have been getting between 96 and 313 watts per day from this design. I use this to power my living room; TV, laptop, and Dennon Audio system. On a sunny weekend I can get over 26 amps a day into the batt. (If anyone cares, I can get pictures out there for anyone to see my setup.)
In my case, the buzzer was telling me there was too much voltage a the PV. I burnt up my diodes and the MOSFET after a full day in the sun and a full batt.

I'll get you all better details as soon as I find my notes but here is what I remember about my controller I tore apart and traced:

It is more of a voltage regulator than a charger. As long as the voltage of the PV is above the batt voltage, it will charge. If the PV voltage exceeds a threshold it shorts to ground through a simple MOSFET circuit.

There is diode protection. 2 in a series immediate after the connection post. If the switch is on the PV+ (after the 2 diodes) is then tied to the Batt+. The PV- and Batt- are common when the switch is on.

In short, find a real charger made for PV applications. I replaced mine with a Manson found on e-bay. It has good historical and current data for display and can be remote switched off/on.
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ROFLMFAO! arkie turned us on to those THREE YEARS AGO here http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Sch ... sage/11833
if you follow out the threads on them you'll see that he explains how to move ONE WIRE ( with photos ) to make the charge controller work properly. he also explains how to get them for $199 shipping paid. and you failed to mention it comes with TWO flourscent lights and that the charge controller is also a voltage adapter that puts out 12-9-6-3vdc all at once so you can also charge those different devices you have that work off those voltages ( does your controller do that? ). if you go to schoolbusconversionuts and type in SOLAR in the subject line and ARKANSASCAJUN in the author line and do a search you'll get an education in what you can and can't do with these systems. as well as other alternative energy systems. i've had mine three years in constant use with the original controller ( with the fix ) and have had zero problems.
ps. controllers don't make any noise!( even before the fix )

What's with the trolling? It's one thing to make your own site better by removing the trolls (and half the legit subscribers). It's a whole different issue to go on trolling at other peoples' sites to try and bring them down. The people that are at this site and not the other one are here for a reason. Why can't you just accept that and move on?
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:16 PM   #7
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thanks steve. i went to that site and joined to post the fix but i guess i'm too stupid for it because i can't figure out how to post. in any event i guess arkies fix did it because mine works perfectly. when one says noise i thought of NOISE not WARNING. mine beeps but only as a LOW VOLTAGE warning so one knows to turn off the unit so as not to harm anything plugged in. so i repeat. mine makes NO SOUNDS when in operation unless i am running some device on it and it gets too low in voltage. it works properly.
as for YOU "the experience". how is my posting dragging down this group? i see you've made over 1700 postings here and you think you know a lot. but if my math serves me you were 13 1/2 years old when arkie started this all. so go blow smoke up someone elses butt. your just an IT punk who can google.
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thanks steve. i went to that site and joined to post the fix but i guess i'm too stupid for it because i can't figure out how to post. in any event i guess arkies fix did it because mine works perfectly. when one says noise i thought of NOISE not WARNING. mine beeps but only as a LOW VOLTAGE warning so one knows to turn off the unit so as not to harm anything plugged in. so i repeat. mine makes NO SOUNDS when in operation unless i am running some device on it and it gets too low in voltage. it works properly.
as for YOU "the experience". how is my posting dragging down this group? i see you've made over 1700 postings here and you think you know a lot. but if my math serves me you were 13 1/2 years old when arkie started this all. so go blow smoke up someone elses butt. your just an IT punk who can google.
Wow, someone can't read either The experience has 1341 posts to be exact, not 1700.
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Hey whodaretard why not post more links that none of us can click on... that does a lot of good.

Why don't you post your laughable stats again so we can all laugh our ass's off at how few posts your site gets each month. Oh here it is...

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Wow Aug. was a killer month... 48 posts, what's that average just over 1 per day....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

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PS why hasn't this spammers account been deleted yet?
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IT punk? That is laughable. I will be the first to admit that while I'm pretty decent with a personal computer I am in no way, shape, or form an IT guy. I don't even know where you would get that reference given that I never mentioned computers in my post.

Now then...how is your posting bringing down this group? Well...by all definitions you are trolling. I am yet to see a post in which you didn't try to promote Arkie's site as better and/or make personal attacks on members here. Jason made a very good point. Posting links or suggesting we search for stuff on the other site is pointless since the vast majority of us are banned over there for one reason or another. I personally was never given an explanation as to why I was banned. I simply could not log in one day and got the warning.

Do I think I know everything? Not a chance in hell. I don't think anyone on this board here does. Everyone knows something though and respects that about everyone else. If I had a computer question I would ask the real IT guys on this board like Steve for example. If I had a question about a jacuzzi you can bet your ass I'd be PMing Jason. If I wanted to know something about sport quads I'd be talking to Phill. If I wanted to make something whimsical or wanted to know something about the trucking industry Elliot would be my go to man (and has been I might add). The list goes on and on and on. What do I know more than the average person about? Well...I guess I would hope a person would look to me for advice about batteries and Toyotas. Yes, they are odd areas of knowledge, but it's what I have to work with and it all kind of jives together here.

If you were interested in being personable, contributing member on this board I would encourage you to stay. Your last post started off ok...but then it was back to the personal attacks (based on unfounded assumptions and poor math to boot). If you are only interested in trolling and advertising for Arkie's site I would politely ask you to just leave us alone. As has already been posted, we are all here for a reason.
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