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Old 04-01-2007, 09:09 AM   #11
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Let me tell ya a little story about new years...... It was warm and rainy here in michigan and i was invited to a party in someones back yard. It had rained all day, and the ground was very soft and squishy. I said "i think i should keep her on the driveway" but the homeowner thought the grass would be much better...would help block the sound of the techno thus not annoying the neighbors. I walked the ground and decided that the low spot near the driveway was gonna be bad, but once i got passed that she'd prob be ok. I think my words out of my mouthe just before i got in to attempt the driving on grass manuver was something like "i think she's probabaly gonna get stuck....but getting her out will just be another good adventure" I put my chances at 50/50.

I backed up a few feet on the cement driveway, put her in drive, then put the pedal to the metal. She bounced off the edge of the driveway onto the soaking wet grass and made it about 50 feet before the rear tires sank too deep to drive her any farther.

A chain and Ford super duty pickup fixed the problem.......i'm glad i don't have to mow the lawn at that house! The ruts left by all 6 tires were at least 8" deep.

i guess this story is prob a bit off topic...

as for the bus your looking at, that is a ton of $$$$, even for a bus with almost no miles on it. I think the 5.9 is a very acceptable motor, but the dt466 is the motor to have, especially if you're spending a crazy amount of money. My first bus i spent $775USD for right from the school district. My 2nd bus i spent $1,500 USD.

as for off-road-ability. When comparing a blue bird flat front end bus with front engine to my conventional bus, there is no comparison off road. The foward control flat front end bus was rather dissapointing when it came to off-highway ability.
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Old 04-01-2007, 09:22 AM   #12
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Hey, you forgot my 8.3!
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Old 04-01-2007, 11:44 AM   #13
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Hey, you forgot my 8.3!
big cummings inline 6 cylinder?

is that a giant cousin of the 5.9?

that thing looks beautiful!
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:36 PM   #14
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I think someone should take Lapeer20m's keys away until he learns to NOT bury a bus
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:39 PM   #15
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I think someone should take Lapeer20m's keys away until he learns to NOT bury a bus
where would the adventure be in that?
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lap, did ya get it out of his yard before the tide came in?
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Old 04-01-2007, 03:46 PM   #17
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just in the nick of time
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Old 04-01-2007, 11:21 PM   #18
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Yes. A Cummins 8.3 liter.
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:14 AM   #19
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thanks guys for all the replies. I will look around and see what else is available.
After reading all your messages and looking at a few conversions and talking it over with my better half, we might still go for a full length bus.
I know ther is a few Canadians on this site, what are your experiences with buying Skoolies in Canada (BC or Alberta) how much are they average, what would be a good place to buy them from? I dont want to buy one from the local busyard since I know that all these buses have been on gravel roads all their lives and are probably pretty shot by the time they sell them.

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Also, this is a commercial bus, from the looks of it. That means questionable maintenance. Commercial buses are in the bidness of making money, not spending it as are school buses. When a commercial bus is in the shop getting a lube and earl job, it ain't making money.
The owner bought it from the first owner who had to stop driving for the school district due to health reasons. He only put 25'000 km on it over the past 4 years. he states that he took it out every 2 months for an hour drive, had it serviced on a regular basis, and of course inspected every so often as required by law for a commercial bus. But business wasnt very good so for the past 2 years the bus didnt move much.

It just seems that this bus should be trouble and rust free since it is low milage and only driven in summer time, no salty roads.
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An all gravel road bus might not be so bad. Maybe the springs would be a little more tired. Maybe there would be issues with rust underneath from rocks chipping away at the underside. But, on the bright side, don't they usually sand gravel roads? On pavement you use salt to melt everything down to a dry surface. On gravel roads, there is no such thing. I thought you guys just pack down the snow and slap spme sand over it. This would be better than the salt baths many of use are used to.

Also salt is worthless at much below freezing. Seems to me that anybody in northern BC would consider it a heat wave when it gets up to zero farenheit.
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