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Old 04-25-2019, 06:06 PM   #1
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So I try and help this guy out who's about to lose his bus. We agree on a price close to what he wanted. He is in Va. and me and the bus in Ga. He has extra keys and keys I don't have and the remote for the inverter. I had intended on holding some money back till I got the signed title and the keys. When I found I didn't need to send the title I went ahead and sent all the money with the promise he would forward the keys when he got his money. 8 days now he won't answer the phone or reply to text or voice mails. There's a word for people like him and it has nothing to do with [moderator edit] All his personal items I set aside to send him will now be burned.
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:16 PM   #2
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I remember your initial post on this deal and knew it was gonna turn out bad for you. Shady [moderator edit] out there.
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:40 PM   #3
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It didn't turn out bad for me, I still got a deal. I can get in the battery box without a key if need be. Cheap to replace the lock. No remote for the inverter I can deal with. It's my trust in humanity tested again. I didn't lose here more than I could afford to lose.
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Old 04-25-2019, 10:35 PM   #4
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People like that everywhere. Who knows, he could be in jail and unable to answer you?
While there's no legal reason you need to hold his stuff until he responds, I'd still dispose of his peripheral property if he didn't answer after 30 days...
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Old 04-26-2019, 06:34 AM   #5
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That's too bad, but the world is weighted down with way too many shmeg-heads. While basically a trusting sort who wants to believe that folx are basically, it just confirms an adage I came up with many moons ago:

I'll give anyone as much slack rope as they need. If they choose to make a noose out of it, I will happily slap the horse out from underneath them...
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:52 AM   #6
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how do you end up not needing the title? I thought you were planning to sell the bus after cleaning it up?
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Old 04-26-2019, 08:09 AM   #7
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What kind of parts are there? Transmission? I like to get rid of this slipping 545 its a joke when I try to pull my 27 foot boat with my bus. Smelt the thing roasting going over the smokey mountains last week too.
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Old 05-05-2019, 03:12 AM   #8
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What kind of parts are there? Transmission? I like to get rid of this slipping 545 its a joke when I try to pull my 27 foot boat with my bus. Smelt the thing roasting going over the smokey mountains last week too.
Not sure of your situation but why not swap out the 545 with a 643? You can get a nice renewed one from LKQ for about $650 + S/H.
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Not sure of your situation but why not swap out the 545 with a 643? You can get a nice renewed one from LKQ for about $650 + S/H.
I think LKQ are sold out of them.
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:19 AM   #10
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I just checked online and there appears to be several available. I will call them on Monday and find out for sure. I'd be surprised if they were sold out. Last I seen they had several pages worth of listings.
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I searched there earlier this week and didn't find the ones mentioned last fall. If you do see them please share a link.
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:41 AM   #12
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Search Transmission Assembly, Allison, MT643, rebuilt by OE, keyword renewed.

It might say zero listings but I see at least 6 for sale.
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Old 05-05-2019, 11:52 AM   #13
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how do you end up not needing the title? I thought you were planning to sell the bus after cleaning it up?
Title was in the bus, we all agreed I could sign his name to it and sell it.
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:47 AM   #14
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is it legal to agree to forging someones signature.. i would be afraid of him coming back to claim his bus..
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:59 PM   #15
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is it legal to agree to forging someones signature.. i would be afraid of him coming back to claim his bus..
I have kept all our text communications where he okays for me to do it. He'll have a tough time explaining the money I sent after all the texts.
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And unless you signed a bill of sale with your name on it, there's no paper trail tying it to you directly. All you were doing is selling it as a "broker"...
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And unless you signed a bill of sale with your name on it, there's no paper trail tying it to you directly. All you were doing is selling it as a "broker"...
BOS reflects the title name , not mine. Nor was I the one who signed his name, plausible deniability if they check hand writing samples .
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its pretty much illegal to forge the tite or sell the bus..

legally its like anything else.. you had a verbal agreement.. emails can constitute a pseudo written agreement that you pay money and receive goods.. you didnt receive the goods... doesnt matter if. the bus is next door to you or not..



its not yours and he can come back on you if you do dispose of it.. not to mention the potential buyer if that buyer gets caught up because the original dude all. the sudden decides he wants his bus and figures outthe title was forged.. someone goes to jail and it aint the new buyer nor the original seller...



you have to take him to court for a judgement order.. caveat being I believe (this may be different in different states).. that you may have to sue him in virginia because the transaction technically took place there.. money exchanged hands officially in virginia..



if you used a safe platform like paypal or zell you very likely can go through that platform and file a dispute.. you never received title for a vehicle purchase.. and he either has to produce a title or you get the $$ back.. .



if you have a. real for sure bill of sale and no titile then you can go file for a title.. in ohio its similar to a mechanics lien but not quite.. im sure georgia has provisions as well as virginia...
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its pretty much illegal to forge the tite or sell the bus..

legally its like anything else.. you had a verbal agreement.. emails can constitute a pseudo written agreement that you pay money and receive goods.. you didnt receive the goods... doesnt matter if. the bus is next door to you or not..



its not yours and he can come back on you if you do dispose of it.. not to mention the potential buyer if that buyer gets caught up because the original dude all. the sudden decides he wants his bus and figures outthe title was forged.. someone goes to jail and it aint the new buyer nor the original seller...



you have to take him to court for a judgement order.. caveat being I believe (this may be different in different states).. that you may have to sue him in virginia because the transaction technically took place there.. money exchanged hands officially in virginia..



if you used a safe platform like paypal or zell you very likely can go through that platform and file a dispute.. you never received title for a vehicle purchase.. and he either has to produce a title or you get the $$ back.. .



if you have a. real for sure bill of sale and no titile then you can go file for a title.. in ohio its similar to a mechanics lien but not quite.. im sure georgia has provisions as well as virginia...
I believe this is much ado about nothing, the old owner is dust in the wind. The deal is way past done, new owner already has title transferred.
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