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Old 05-23-2009, 01:00 PM   #1
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oops, I did it again...

1991 chevrolet 60 series chassis, thomas built body, conventional dog nose, with 366ci gasser, 5 speed manual, 65 passenger rated.

Engine runs smoooooooooooooooth.

Got it for $400 off of the asking price of $1800.

Some of the windows were left open, so there's the expected weather related detritus inside. The seats are in ok enough condition, about what you'd expect from a retired school bus I guess. This unit was geared for running up and down the highway (everything around here is a lot of highway miles).

The rear hang is shorter than I expected for a conventional. There are a lot of similarities in the body design between my two thomas busses.

I do not have any conversion plans for this bus. Basically, I *might* swap the tires over to my bus, and that's about it. I bought this bus to be my conversion shed while I do my conversion.

We have several sheds here on my parents lot, and I have some of my stuff in pretty much each of them. Oh yeah, my main bus is also pretty full.

My solution to this problem is not to spend $3000 on a too-small shed of my own, but instead to spend $1400 on a bus to use.

I plan to store all of MY extras in this bus. I'm not worried about security here.

Also, as I get further along with the conversion, I might need a "big truck" to get supplies. This bus could fill that need. I'm planning to put farm use only tags on it.

Once all of my stuff is out of all the storage buildings here, there will be room in them for the stuff that is in my main bus that doesn't belong there, and I have all weekend to get it all moved around.

The end result here is that I'll finally be able to work inside my bus again.

Towards the end of my conversion project, I should be able to sell this bus, hopefully to someone that will find it good for their conversion. Or, maybe I'll have finally convinced my parents they should do a conversion.

I don't have pictures yet, but I should have some up this evening.

Oh, it also has some kind of video surveillance system inside. I'm itching to play with that thing.

more later,
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Old 05-23-2009, 03:51 PM   #2
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Re: oops, I did it again...

time for pics.

gallery is here: http://gallery.giffords.net/v/shedbus/




































So many choices with a bus... convention or flat nose, gas or diesel, automatic or manual, front engine or rear engine... now I have one of each.

I now have 3 vehicles 30' long or longer in my parent's yard. I think they might kill me. lol

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Old 05-23-2009, 06:27 PM   #3
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Re: oops, I did it again...

Thanks smitty, I think it was a decent deal. I've seen better on here, and definitely seen worse deals.

I forgot to mention that this engine is also fuel injected. Also, there's a pull knob for setting the throttle at a particular level. Since the pedal moves when you pull it, I'd guess it is directly connected to the same area on the throttle linkage.

I'm not sure why a fuel injected motor with no PTO would need that, unless they needed it to keep the idle higher to keep the alternator spinning faster. It's a 105 amp alternator.

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Old 05-24-2009, 01:12 PM   #4
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Re: oops, I did it again...

I noticed last night while taking measurements of the back door that there were some kind of ugly creepy crawlies all over the rear door frame.

The rear of this bus had been parked in the branches of a fir tree of some type. So, I think these were some kind of critters from those trees.

In any case, I've been needing to fumigate the bigger bus for a while now due to the birds that lived in there, so I bought a LOT of fogger today. I put off a can in each bus.

Sometime during the night, the semi-stray male cat that hangs around decided the new bus was his, and he managed to get in via an open window and sprayed the firewall area above the steps. So now there is the lovely cat pee odor. And after the fogger, I'm sure it'll smell even better.

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Old 05-24-2009, 04:37 PM   #5
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Re: oops, I did it again...

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I think I have some left-over skunk essence (from the coyote trapping days) I can send ya, just open the bottle & set it in the bus, I PROMISE you won't smell the cat or the fogger anymore

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haha! actually, the fogger doesn't smell too bad. Looks like a lot of little critters got dead.

I discovered that the swing arm on the front was removed by taking the arm off but leaving the electrics. Looking at it, I might be able to repurpose it to be able to open and close the door on my main bus. Gotta give it some serious though, as it is annoying dealing with the clip.

Also, the 8-way control is an electronic control in this model.

And, there's a standard diagnostic port under the dash. Makes sense in retrospect with that fuel injected engine. Still, with it being a 91, it's probably pretty primitive.

I found the wires powering the silent witness and yanked them loose. So, no more video. I can't wait to dig into that and play with it. Gonna have to practice picking the lock.

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Old 05-24-2009, 07:16 PM   #6
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Bus # 22: Silent Witness

So it turns out getting the "Silent Witness" removed is easier than I thought.

First, remove the driver's seat. This makes everything else MUCH easier.

Then, to get the front locked cover open, pay attention to the "hinge"... really just tabs inserted into slots. Take a screwdriver and a hammer and tap on the lock to shove the cover in the direction that permits the tabs to come out. Then pry out the tabs, and pull the cover off, bypassing the lock.

Since I only damaged the cover a little bit before I realized the tab trick, I plan to replace the lock with one I have on hand. The lock box will be useful for something I'm sure.

Inside there is a small DC operated VCR with some customized circuitry inside.

There is a D shaped 25 pin connector on the back, which is where power, ign+, brk, stp, and other input signals come into the unit. On this bus, they only had the ones for ign+, brakes, and 8 ways (stp) hooked up. There is a cable just for speed, but it wasn't attached.

There is a separate set of cables (video, audio, and power) that goes into a tiny cable that routes around and feeds the camera. It is easy to fish it back out. The camera has security allen screws all over it, but had standard phillips head screws attaching it to the ceiling panel.

There was still a tape in the VCR. Based on viewing the tape, it looks like my bus was decommissioned in the summer of 2005. Also, it looks like the bus was just a spare/special activities bus for that school year. The guy I bought it from bought it direct from the school system in 2008. So, looks like it sat in the school maintenance yard for 3 years.

While I was messing with wiring, I also found the blasted buzzer and pulled the wires from it. Now there's no emergency exit buzzing.

After spending some time staring at the bus, I've decided I'm going to keep the front 2 rows of seats for now. I plan to remove the rest of them. This will give me some good cargo space for all my "stuff" and also let me drive around with a few passengers if needed.

I'm also planning to leave room free in the back for materials I need to go buy in the future for the primary bus conversion. This way I can load the materials into the bus and not have to move them when I get back home, except upon need for them to be installed.

Watching the video, it appears this may not have been one of the busses geared for highway running. There are some bits on the highway where the bus is being passed by a steady stream of cars. However, until I have a chance to get on the road with it myself, there's just no telling for sure.

I still need to put the driver's seat back in. It's nearly 100% humidity out there today, which is murderous. Every time I go out, it rains a little teeny bit then stops again.

I don't think this silent witness thing will be useful in my conversion in any way. I have doubts about the special lock box being useful. But, you never can tell.

jim

edit: it is security allen screws, not security torx screws. oops.
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Old 05-25-2009, 08:26 AM   #7
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Wow...thats'a lotta busses! Maybe you could build a double wide!
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Re: oops, I did it again...

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Wow...thats'a lotta busses! Maybe you could build a double wide!
Lol, no. I'm not quite *that* redneck.

And I'm sure there're people with more than 2 busses.



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Old 05-25-2009, 06:10 PM   #9
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hey you could donate one to Smitty
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:17 PM   #10
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Hey if anyone actually has too many busses I could definately use more storage at our new property...hehe... just have to deliver it to New Mexico for us!
Wow, nothing like a cute blond enjoying her uhm cold beer..
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