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Old 09-30-2015, 12:40 PM   #21
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Was it my eyes or after he removed the magnet and ran it up again there was more shaking than with the magnet installed. Watch the left edge of the tire.
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:18 PM   #22
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Yeah, I also could hear the additional strain and torque required of that little electrical motor. Granted, it's just a little thing, but I am imagining that same system sized up to 22.5" HDT tires. I wouldn't mind using something like that in the back of the vehicle on the off-chance that I had a spare tire or two that I needed to install myself out in the woods or something, but I would rather do an actual proper balance on a tire with old-skool lead fishing weights.
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:36 PM   #23
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Yeah it looked slightly out of balance after he removed the magnet, but that imbalance and the size of the centramatic weren't to scale compared to the size of the tire. The only thing that I have a problem with, and that nobody can seem to ever answer, is how many rpm does the tire have to be turning in order for it to be balanced? I'm just curious if it would even work at slower speeds.
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Old 09-30-2015, 03:24 PM   #24
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Yeah it looked slightly out of balance after he removed the magnet, but that imbalance and the size of the centramatic weren't to scale compared to the size of the tire. The only thing that I have a problem with, and that nobody can seem to ever answer, is how many rpm does the tire have to be turning in order for it to be balanced? I'm just curious if it would even work at slower speeds.
That would depend on the mass of the internal weights, as well as the fluid. The tire that this device is attached to would have to spin fast enough for centrifugal force to overcome the the force applied by gravity to the mass of the ball-bearings modified by the resistance/suspension of the lube inside the tube.

TLDR = Physics says no. These work at highway speeds
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:11 PM   #25
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Most commercial tires nowadays are balanced using poly beads internally. Don't heat up or damage the rubber and won't sling off like lead.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:00 PM   #26
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If I were going to even put half the amount of miles on the tires that they're rated for, I'd care what brand they were... But on average, how many miles a year does the average skoolie see?
On my scooter the difference between top brand and chinese is ten bucks. On My bus its a totally different story.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:13 PM   #27
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I guess if you were going to put on that many miles that you were going to wear out the tires before timing them out, you would have spent gobs on diesel so why quibble over the price of some tires.
Granted if that cost was $500 different @ lets say $3 per gallon thats only 160 gallons of diesel and at 10MPG thats only 1600 miles of extra dicking about.
That is my summation of the information on this thread to this point.
But That does not take into account of how those 1600 miles feel on less good tires.
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Old 09-30-2015, 08:41 PM   #28
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Most commercial tires nowadays are balanced using poly beads internally. Don't heat up or damage the rubber and won't sling off like lead.
I use Counteract beads, very pleased with them.
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Old 09-30-2015, 09:31 PM   #29
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I use Counteract beads, very pleased with them.
I'm thinking of using them too, do they use a different valve stem on them? did you do all your tires? have to replace my steers, drives are good so I wouldn't be balancing them (yet)
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Old 09-30-2015, 09:35 PM   #30
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If I were going to even put half the amount of miles on the tires that they're rated for, I'd care what brand they were... But on average, how many miles a year does the average skoolie see?
On my scooter the difference between top brand and chinese is ten bucks. On My bus its a totally different story.
Also on a scooter, a tire failure can cause you to die.

Less chance of that with 6 tires and 20,000 pounds of steel around you.

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