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Old 11-26-2008, 12:52 AM   #1
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OT; DVD movie discs??????


This part makes sense:
Millicent The Bus exists to haul Kinetic Sculpture Racing vehicles to the races -> I have a ton of VHS video tapes of Kinetic Sculpture Racing -> I'm trying to transfer the video tapes to DVDs.

This part does NOT make sense:
I have a Magnavox MRV700VR DVD+RW/VHS Recorder -> I dub the films on the VHS cassettes to DVD+R and DVD+RW discs -> the new discs play fine on the same machine -> the new discs do not play on other people's DVD players. WTF?

I've made well over 100 discs from 25 tapes so far. 26 more tapes to go, and many, many more copies. Me not happy.

I used to think that a DVD was a DVD. Apparently not. So far, I only grasp that there is a (to me) whole new world of technical details regarding DVDs; I do not grasp why or how or what. Help!
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Old 11-26-2008, 01:37 AM   #2
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Re: OT; DVD movie discs??????

Does the machine finalize them and record them in a "normal" format? I've burned plenty of CD's that wouldn't play in CD players, but would play just fine in computers only because they weren't finalized. Likewise, I use many various output formats that are compatible with some, but not all machines.
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:28 AM   #3
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The finalizing may be a possible... item for investigation. The machine is supposed to finalize the discs automatically, but now that you mention it... I remember that finalizing took quite a bit of time back when I first used the machine, and now perhaps it does not take so long. So maybe the discs are not being finalized. I'll look for information about that in the instruction booklet in the morning.

What is a "normal" format?

Hmmm... could the recording speed have any thing to do with this? Some of these tapes ran over two hours, so I set the DVD recorder to 2 1/2 hour. Could that have mucked it up?
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BINGO! Not finalized. And I have managed to get one finalized, so... only 119 to go!

Thanks a million!
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:18 PM   #5
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Re: OT; DVD movie discs??????

Uh, oh. Still not out of the woods. The finalized discs work for some people, but not for others. Some players bring up a notice that "the disc is dirty". And some players seem to get stuck on "loading". On one occation a film skipped forward like a phonograph record on a wobbly table.

And now my recorder has quit recording.

So.... What kind of machine should I buy? One that WORKS, this time!
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are all the players able to handle the DVD+RW format? if not try playing them on the computer and see if they play.
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are all the players able to handle the DVD+RW format? if not try playing them on the computer and see if they play.
I have been using both +R and +RW discs, which are what my recorder specifies for recording. Some of my friends are able to play one kind, but not the other.

And as you suggest, one man reports that he can play my discs on his computer, but not on any of his several TV players.

It's all quite incomprehensible. I deeply regret volunteering for this project at all. Modern technology is completely out of hand. (I'm happy to report that I have not had TV reception in my house for six years, and I'm sure as heck not going out and spending a single penny on more computer crap January 17th!) Ah... I feel better now.
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:50 PM   #8
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yeah sounds like thats what it is some dvd players only play certain formats. have everyone just use thier computers connected to their lcd tvs and they should be fine.
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yeah sounds like thats what it is some dvd players only play certain formats. have everyone just use thier computers connected to their lcd tvs and they should be fine.
Is that the future of home-recorded films -- playing them thru PCs instead of dedicated equipment? Was there never a standard established for DVD home movies? I wouldn't be surprised.
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Re: OT; DVD movie discs??????

I think the common problem is most likely the RW discs. The +R's really shouldn't be a problem on all but the oldest DVD players out there. It's the rewritable discs that are a killer. The same goes for CD's. Truly the easiest way I've found to burn DVD's is by simply using my computer. It allows me to easily make tables, do editing, etc. Best of all, a good DVD-RW drive is under $40. The problem comes with getting them off the VHS tapes. However, there are middle to higher end graphics cards out there that can do it as well as other USB, Firewire, etc capture devices. The catch is that you must rip everything to the hard drive in real time. I'm not sure how many hours of footage you have, but you could be there for a while while it is recorded. On the other hand, once it is ripped to a hard drive it would be nothing to whip out a copy in 10-15 minutes I would imagine.
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