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08-17-2015, 06:38 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 13
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Rejected by an RV park
I was really excited to stay in an RV park here in Austin. Called them up and they don't allow skoolies to stay. I had been warned about some parks doing this. What gives? Do they just assume skoolies are busted up hunks of junk? Is it a safety issue with them being home built and potential fire hazards? To reject someone sight unseen is just a big bag of BS. My skoolie is nicer than some conventional RVs they have in there. What a joke.
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08-17-2015, 06:45 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Its like the insurance companies. They reject them on principle. You touched on some of the many reasons why parks often don't allow bus conversions very well.
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08-17-2015, 06:47 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrblah
I have been told by our local DMV (SAAQ in québec Canada) that some RV parks only allow NFPA 1192 approved RVs.
NFPA 1192: Standard on Recreational Vehicles
Sucks, but the modern, safe, clean world is catching up to the DIY.
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When it comes to emergency exits, and depending on how it's built, odds are our conversions have much more than any commercially available RV
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08-17-2015, 06:48 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 100
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Probably true.
But all that nice plywood could burn reaaaly nice. I might look into using fireretardant presswood when it's time.
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08-17-2015, 06:52 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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I've planned on keeping all 5 window exits (relocating a couple) plus the roof hatches.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrblah
But all that nice plywood could burn reaaaly nice. I might look into using fireretardant presswood when it's time.
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But then, so do commercially built RVs-
Our buses, with the exception of the shuttle conversions (sorry guys), are steel construction.
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08-17-2015, 06:54 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Its like the insurance companies. They reject them on principle. You touched on some of the many reasons why parks often don't allow bus conversions very well.
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Because of those who do slipshod work, those of us who want a quality product (at a 10th the cost of a stick & staple Class A) are made to suffer.
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08-17-2015, 07:04 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooternj
Because of those who do slipshod work, those of us who want a quality product (at a 10th the cost of a stick & staple Class A) are made to suffer.
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That's always the case.
The stupidity of the many always falls back on the few who intended to do it right....
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08-17-2015, 09:48 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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I some of the rv parks think that skoolies are rolling meth labs,
gbstewart
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08-17-2015, 11:03 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: MB
Posts: 279
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Tomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbstewart
I some of the rv parks think that skoolies are rolling meth labs,
gbstewart
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Aren't they?!
;)
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08-18-2015, 06:21 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Tomball, TX
Posts: 313
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC/2000
Engine: Cummins 5.9TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbstewart
I some of the rv parks think that skoolies are rolling meth labs,
gbstewart
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Did someone say rolling meth lab?
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08-18-2015, 06:23 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Tomball, TX
Posts: 313
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC/2000
Engine: Cummins 5.9TA
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My wife's uncle just built an RV park. They've got a no skoolie rule, but said I could stay there. Not sure if I'd want to. 90% of the reason I go camping is to have a camp fire, and they don't have any fire rings.
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08-18-2015, 06:31 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 584
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: I.H.
Engine: DT360
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Being the exception to the rule is not a good reason to stay there. I'd say no thanks unless they can justify the rule and explain how they inspect the "rvs" that come in for meeting their standards that are assumed to be not met by skoolies.
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08-18-2015, 07:22 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Tomball, TX
Posts: 313
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC/2000
Engine: Cummins 5.9TA
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They don't inspect anything. If it looks ugly they reserve the right to turn people away. Insurance is cheaper if they have the no skoolie rule. They also have a no guns rule because of insurance. I didn't ask, but I'd be willing to bet that insurance is the reason for no fire rings too.
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08-18-2015, 07:31 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Tomball, TX
Posts: 313
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC/2000
Engine: Cummins 5.9TA
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I think the age rule is probably driven by insurance as well. The assumption being that the older it is, the more likely it is to have been repaired by an amateur. The assumption is that something with the RVIA sticker on it had to undergo some sort of quality control and was put together by professionals. Not people like me learning how to wire stuff up on the internet.
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08-18-2015, 11:40 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Denver
Posts: 489
Year: 1982
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International S1800
Engine: DT466 Trans: MT643
Rated Cap: 65
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RV parks can suck my tailpipe
My bus is safer in EVERY way over a traditional RV. My wiring is better, I have multiple emergency exits, fire extinguishers, a steel body, and no generator to blow up.
All I can say is em! If I had the money I'd get some land and make a place for skoolie and tiny home owners to come and stay. It would be a private club--NO RV's ALLOWED--and if you didn't make it yourself, you better keep truckin!
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08-18-2015, 11:58 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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At the end of the day, it's a private business. I don't like it. I'll just spent my dollars somewhere else.
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08-18-2015, 12:20 PM
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#18
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycal
At the end of the day, it's a private business. I don't like it. I'll just spent my dollars somewhere else.
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Which is definitely why On the Road | Travel, Trips, Camp Sites, Tailgates is a good idea for shaming those who won't accept our bucks, and praising those who do
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08-18-2015, 12:26 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Salt Lake City Utah
Posts: 1,635
Year: 2000
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: ISC 8.3
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My personal policy is don't ask about skoolies, don't volunteer that it is a skoolie, and have a backup plan in case they ask me to move along (if I'm not staying long, they might just let it slide because it's perceived to be easier than opening a confrontation). But most of the time I'll probably try to avoid campgrounds anyway; for me the point of going out is to have more nature and less neighbor. Campgrounds usually seem to be packed pretty tight.
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08-18-2015, 12:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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This is why I'm so hard on the people here that slap together piles of $hit for bus conversions.
The more pile of $hit conversions that get built, the more All skoolies will get rejected from the campgrounds.
Nat
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